Roll on the 20th June

[shakman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Magnetic_Overunity_Toy


In the theoretical SMOT design, a steel ball is pulled up a ramp by an array of permanent magnets. At the top of the ramp it falls, converting magnetic attraction into kinetic energy.


How is Archers new smot any different than this one that goes up hill and over again?

I think Archer plans to carry a payload - that's where the torque is going to come from. The "Simple Magnetic Overunity Toy" is unable to do this.

shakman

PS I really should get back to work...

[exxcomm0n]

Those are not tanks on the side of the shuttle. They are SLRB's solid rocket booster engines. They use solid fuel stored internally
like fireworks. They are more energy efficient than the three liquid hydrogen/oxygen turbopump rocket motors used underneath the shuttle. But they have a small problem. Once you start them stand back, because you aren't shutting them down, you aren't even throttling them. Obviously they are not restartable.

But because of their higher efficiency though they are the wave of the future. The return moon mission seems to use ones like
them as a single stage to orbit launch rocket.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Solid fuel vs. liquid fuel is moot.
It is still a tank (even though it is a self contained motion vessel in and of itself) holding fuel.

EDIT

BTW, Didn't I ask you some questions a while back?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg110494.html#msg110494

[Rusty_Springs]

@ Fred Flintstone 

Do you understand what he is doing? I still haven't figured out how his poles are arranged. He never answered my question about the drawing I posted. I would think you might want to try making a small section to confirm if you can get it to work before odering a lot of magnets.

Hi xee
Go to the site I showed for the onewaygate and on that page you will see a drawing of my gate that shows you the way the poles are because its no different to Archers except like I said the types of magnets.
Take Care xee
Graham

[exxcomm0n]

Actually, NASA has jumped on the "green" bandwagon and are developing their future as we speak: RAILGUNS!

Uses magnetism and electricity to launch the craft from grade, meaning total speed is not limited by shockwaves like jets and rockets are...

Railguns currently hold the all-time (unmanned) speed record of some 1700+ MPH if I remember correctly.

-PurePower

Could be cool, but I don't think humans can handle the G's involved quite yet.

EDIT

But for satellite launches it could be the way to go.

Do you think the energy (electricity/rail gun) will equal the energy (explosive gas/rocket) for atmosphere breaking?

What do you mean " Uses magnetism and electricity to launch the craft from grade, meaning total speed is not limited by shockwaves like jets and rockets are..."?
I thought shockwaves were caused by compressed atmosphere.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
3 things to remember about Archer setup, first if he closes the gap he will turn the setup into a big magnet with one have north the other south, second if he has an airgap the force or energy it will need to break the attract back will be heaps and third an airgap is alway the opposite pole to the pole nearest it so if your airgap has two attracting magnet ever side then the gap itself would be repelling.
Take Care All
Graham