Roll on the 20th June

[therealrasta]

But if something stupid pays off I will still get down and genuflect as it's a gift to the world whether they accept that or not.

indeed

Dear lord NO! mass is definitely not the same thing as weight. A 1kg object on earth does not make a 1kg object on the moon. But if you speed up this object to speed X it will have the same momentum on the moon as on earth. So Mass (unless you change the object) is constant. weight is not.
Besides momentum is solely like you stated mass * speed. gravity is a conservative force acting on that mass, accelarating it.

Well of course this project is all about being here on earth!. So on earth mass and weight = gravity. Which all correlate with each other..  And the momentum generate by a moving object on earth and in space will not be the same with the same mass.. I do not see that as being possible considering wind drag, physical friction and gravity.

[therealrasta]

double post

[Mr. M]

@Mr.M

Hey dude.. Did you read this thread in its entirety? It has been crazy  fun.. I don't know how I missed it actually.. But when I found it a couple days ago.. I spent 30 hours reading this short story turned novel.  Its been great.. Can't wait to see the final outcome!

I've read it all and like yourself spent an obscene amount of time following it to date. It's one of the most interesting threads I've ever read, if not the most.

The final outcome is going to be interesting but the fact is that Archer, and others in this field, with work which may be credible and successful or not, has attracted a hell of a lot of attention.  That, in itself, is a massive achievement in my opinion as it shows how many people are willing to keep an open mind on the topic. There are millions of people checking out this subject on a daily basis and a lot of those voices shouting that any and all research in to this field is pointless and anyone choosing to follow it is wasting everyones time and money.

I became interested when I came in with a neutral stance and looked at the comments people were making about the "Free Energy" concept. I found it surprising, and somewhat amusing, that the vast majority of people saying it can't be done do so with the conviction and mindset of a religious zealot yet the vast majority of those with an open mind just wanted to know more.

Personally I'm not interested in a commercially viable product... I'm interested in someone showing it's possible to create a device, of any size and cost, which is capable of producing more energy than it consumes... I'm not interested in people saving the world, I see it as a bonus, I'm only interested in the war between the people who think it's possible and the people who claim to know, as an indisputable fact, that it isn't.

You see I have a real problem... I have a real nasty problem which I can't seem to figure out...

I know that the chances of me picking up this cup of tea next to me and turning it in to liquid gold with nothing more than the power of my mind isn't something worth attempting, it's as close to impossible as makes a difference and therefore I don't bother trying. If I saw someone else doing it and telling me it were possible I wouldn't spend my life telling them it was impossible, I would spend my time doing something far more productive like picking my nose, for example.

The people who claim to know it's indisputably impossible make a conscience decision to take time out of their lives to tell the people attempting it that it's impossible.  These people are supposed to be scientific, they are supposed to be credible, they are supposed to be intelligent and yet they, by their own admission, are wasting their lives telling people it can't be done.  People are going to try no matter how many people tell them it can't be done and in some cases, like Archer, telling them it can't just spurs them on.  Granted he can spit his dummy a bit but you get my point.

So, you see my problem... If it can't be done and it's been a fact that it can't be done for hundreds of years then why bother to continue to tell people trying to do it that it can't be done..? I see three plausible reasons.

1 ) They have a lot of time, frustration and pent up aggression which needs venting at easy victims.
2 ) They aren't convinced what they say is entirely true and need to frequently affirm their beliefs.
3 ) They have an ulterior motive.

In fact if anyone can tell me why they are wasting their time saying it can't be done when it's written in stone it can't be done and the reason isn't one of the three I've given then enlighten me and I'll have one less nagging question on my mind.

Anyways... Yeah, nice thread.   *grin*

[therealrasta]

Mr.M..

Totally agree on all points.  Well one thing about all the naysayers.. It definitely attracted more attention to this thread and is helping to spread the over all message.. The need for a better energy solution in this   country.. Many people can hardly afford a few simple luxuries in life due to the current expenses incurred by the current cost of energy. And not to mention the lower or large middle classed families in the US.. I have no idea how they even survive.

[exxcomm0n]

I've read it all and like yourself spent an obscene amount of time following it to date. It's one of the most interesting threads I've ever read, if not the most.

The final outcome is going to be interesting but the fact is that Archer, and others in this field, with work which may be credible and successful or not, has attracted a hell of a lot of attention.  That, in itself, is a massive achievement in my opinion as it shows how many people are willing to keep an open mind on the topic. There are millions of people checking out this subject on a daily basis and a lot of those voices shouting that any and all research in to this field is pointless and anyone choosing to follow it is wasting everyones time and money.

I became interested when I came in with a neutral stance and looked at the comments people were making about the "Free Energy" concept. I found it surprising, and somewhat amusing, that the vast majority of people saying it can't be done do so with the conviction and mindset of a religious zealot yet the vast majority of those with an open mind just wanted to know more.

Personally I'm not interested in a commercially viable product... I'm interested in someone showing it's possible to create a device, of any size and cost, which is capable of producing more energy than it consumes... I'm not interested in people saving the world, I see it as a bonus, I'm only interested in the war between the people who think it's possible and the people who claim to know, as an indisputable fact, that it isn't.

You see I have a real problem... I have a real nasty problem which I can't seem to figure out...

I know that the chances of me picking up this cup of tea next to me and turning it in to liquid gold with nothing more than the power of my mind isn't something worth attempting, it's as close to impossible as makes a difference and therefore I don't bother trying. If I saw someone else doing it and telling me it were possible I wouldn't spend my life telling them it was impossible, I would spend my time doing something far more productive like picking my nose, for example.

The people who claim to know it's indisputably impossible make a conscience decision to take time out of their lives to tell the people attempting it that it's impossible.  These people are supposed to be scientific, they are supposed to be credible, they are supposed to be intelligent and yet they, by their own admission, are wasting their lives telling people it can't be done.  People are going to try no matter how many people tell them it can't be done and in some cases, like Archer, telling them it can't just spurs them on.  Granted he can spit his dummy a bit but you get my point.

So, you see my problem... If it can't be done and it's been a fact that it can't be done for hundreds of years then why bother to continue to tell people trying to do it that it can't be done..? I see three plausible reasons.

1 ) They have a lot of time, frustration and pent up aggression which needs venting at easy victims.
2 ) They aren't convinced what they say is entirely true and need to frequently affirm their beliefs.
3 ) They have an ulterior motive.

In fact if anyone can tell me why they are wasting their time saying it can't be done when it's written in stone it can't be done and the reason isn't one of the three I've given then enlighten me and I'll have one less nagging question on my mind.

Anyways... Yeah, nice thread.   *grin*

That was....brilliant, and thank you!

(anything else is anti-climatic).

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!