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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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shakman

Another angle on my variation of Archer's SMOT wheel. It assumes that you don't need to have direct contact with the SMOT to run, the arms move in an "in and away" motion from the magnetic field.

I am working the mechanics out in my head using CorelDRAW as a CAD tool so I may have the actions all wrong but I'll just throw it out there.

I've also thought of some additions to the hinged weights and arms to make them a bit more aerodynamic seeing as they'll be moving around a bit. Ultimately pipe arms would do the trick but the hinged weight would be hard to implement if you're a dummy without access to proper tools like me.

The idea is that each arm has it's own pivot and a point on the arm that connects to an axis off-centre to the rest of the wheel. Assuming I have the mechanics right (or close enought) this forces the arms to swing up and in towards the magnetic array (SMOT) and again pivot away from it, moving closer to the centre of the wheel as it passes by 12 oclock. This also causes the hinged weight to move back inside the arm at around 12 oclock, greatly reducing the "feedback inertia" (did I just coin a phrase?) caused by the retracting weight. In fact, with the arm's central pivot still at around 4 oclock when the weight swings back inside it this may actually add momentum.

If you use multiple arms in this design, using both sides definitely comes in to play.

Anyway, it's just another far-fetched idea that just crazy enough to work.

@Archer
Thanks for the inspiration so far mate. You really have me thinking now. Whether or not I've just created a piece of crap or a work of art, it has the grey matter working overtime  ;D

@Anyone who still knocks Archer for anything he's done so far
I'm one of many people he has inspired to look into FE/OU etc. In my case I have been interested for as long as I can remember, but the thoughts have remained dormant for a long time. Archer Quinn has opened my mind to new possilities. If you have a problem with that then... well let's just say you have problems - period!

therealrasta

@ Shak Nice cad work...

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 10, 2008, 10:58:22 PM
Hi rasta
I was giving him slack until he started attacking me, I'm sick of his crap he hasn't showed one working principle and its about time he did, like I said he has the materials to do it so why doesn't he?
Take Care rasta
Graham

Well it still takes time to build..

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on July 10, 2008, 10:57:34 PM
just converting them now, then upload so around 1-2 hours for both

In the mean time you can go and read purepowers plans for a gravity wheel with leather straps and wood and shit he say it "will work"

Sweet.. looking forward to them..

Quote from: jazgad on July 10, 2008, 11:01:24 PM
I just got my car done and you can see it at http://www.h2ovehicles.net

1997 Mercury Grand Marquis with a v8

I have add 10 miles per gallon! Oh Yeah!

Jason Gadrim

Thats really great dude.. But you posted it in the wrong thread.. Gratz though..  ::)

TinselKoala

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on July 10, 2008, 10:39:19 PM
@tinsel koala, just thought i would re-film that for you with my hand out of the way, the first seems to be the same as before only with my hand out of the way, then i made some adjustments.  ;D

Think you may find the second re-filming exit a litle better than the first re-filming

OK, great, thanks Archer. I haven't seen them yet, I'll go look for them now.

BTW, I did download the "nothing new here" video, and slowed it way down (you can do this with mplayerclassic once it's converted back to .avi) and it is very clear that the third time, you release the roller farther down, and with a greater push. I know it's hard to hold things steady and the track was kind of flexible, so I'm sure the new videos will show a better release.

shakman

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on July 10, 2008, 10:57:34 PM
just converting them now, then upload so around 1-2 hours for both

In the mean time you can go and read purepowers plans for a gravity wheel with leather straps and wood and shit he say it "will work"

Thanks mate. I have to get to bed before then unfortunately.
I'm off to my brother's place for a birthday dinner in 5hrs and then off to work from there til tomorrow morning (hooray  :()

Brendan

exxcomm0n

Quote from: purepower on July 10, 2008, 10:07:34 PM
@exx

Dude, you are go better than Archer. You make hocus pocus claims with no foundation.

Prove "banked mechanical energy." Until then, you are just another armchair scientist fool.

@ PureP
(I tried to respect you man, but you kept wearing away at it with the remorselessness of the tide.)

But I do it so much better than you, and more well supported cause I can answer questions.
I thought that was a given ability that came along with language, but it seems attitude can trump it every time. ;)

I have been pretty tolerant so far and you were warned.

@ all

Sorry, he asked for it. If you see this as abuse, I ask you to make your case to Stephan please.

@ PureP

Quote from: purepower on July 10, 2008, 10:07:34 PM
I can prove mine. It doesnt include "banked machine energy" because it doesnt exist. Sure it takes energy to build a system, but this energy never comes back out through a process or cycle of the system. You want to be right so bad you are willing to overlook truth you can't wrap your little baked brain around.

Why the fuck do we build anything then?

Do you have any idea how much that sounds like "my dick is bigger than yours"? which is a statement that scares me as I don't see what fashion that comparison serves.
@ least none that interest me.

You got mad because I caught you out yet again, like the little girl and semi time, and a few others that seem to tickle my hind brain.

You are so proud of your achievement of surviving and passing school and the offer to be a drone for a Fortune 500 company you figger (figure) you know it all. (You do know you're pretty much a drone ant in a hive working for a corp., don't you?
I already have EDIT worked for a Fortune 500 company, but then they posted the biggest bankruptcy case in US history. They were called Worldcom and changed it back to the name of an acquired asset named MCI soon after the news. I was laid off soon after)

Fortune 500 doesn't mean shit. In fact a good many of them have been proven of outright fraud. They pay a fine and everybody forgets except the guys with the misappropriated cash.

Quote from: purepower on July 10, 2008, 10:07:34 PM
Can you measure this banked energy? Can you quantify its effects on the system? No you can't. All you can do is hit that pipe/bong/j/blunt and say yes it does. I shit pure gold and ride a unicorn to work. I can't prove it, but I want to believe it so it must be true. Water is a liquid like gasoline so it must work the same in my engine too.

Oh man, that opened up a whole 'nother box of shitstorm now.
I hope the HHO and water plasma threads don't hear about this!

But anyway, most people measure banked energy in dollars and I measure this banked energy every time I drive my car. I can't help it.
The thing has 2 odometers to do it for me whether I want to or not.

The dollars thing means you have to pay for the base ore or other material, pay for the design (in money or time), pay for the R & D (ditto), pay for the processing, pay for the shipping, pay for the retail space to display it so people wanted me to pay for the banked energy it took to realize all those costs as well when I want a new item of merchandise.

The other one I hope you can puzzle out. ;)

Quote from: purepower on July 10, 2008, 10:07:34 PM
Touchy feely observations aren't worth shit.

So hows that spiral ramp OU device coming? I can't wait for you to save the world with your pulley, lever, and ramp batteries! One time input of energy, continual and infinate out output!

Are you drunk? If you were high on just about anything else outside of meth, ketamine, jimson weed, or cola I'd expect you to have the mental capacity to @ least read my last post to you.

Wait! Are you jonesing, instead?
Either of those could explain this sudden lapse of ability from an engineering intern for a Fortune 500 company.

Quote from: purepower on July 10, 2008, 10:07:34 PM
Put up or shut up.

(In case you can't tell, I skim your shit. Didnt even come close to reading more than 5% of that last rant)

Do you realize what a self infatuated ass that makes you sound like?

Here, lets adopt that attitude for just a moment......

Build me anything using no energy.

Is that better? A little wider so you can formulaic it up anyway you'd like?

Does it make you look any less like a self righteous ass?

Quote from: purepower on July 10, 2008, 10:07:34 PM
@AQ

What are you saying? I can't even make sense of your verbal puke anymore...
How's that wheel coming? Still waiting... 

-PurePower

Ya know....that's a good one to turn around.

How does the quest to be chosen as "Robin" fare?
You seemed heavily vested in that.

@ least until I started inquiring about it. then there was a brief flare and then it was gone.

I hope it is a barnburner of an FE device cause it seems to have met your incredibly high standards.

Ya reeled me in w/ a bleeding heart trash/anniversary story with at least caring about your immediate environment.
But I have pretty much had too much evidence of your attitude since to blow that small kernel of respect I had for you for that story out my ass and I won't have to worry about it staining my shorts as it's about something of NO SUBSTANCE!

But you are an amusing little boy.

:D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.