Roll on the 20th June

[ramset]

Lived and worked all my life in NYC seen lots of con men, lazy guys every one Archer works to hard  and he must have a death wish[also not a con man atribute] coming on the scene guns blazing for the oil comps with a release date busting his ass in front of the world  Con man Nah  couple wires twisted somewhere maybe ?  But where all a little  twisted Besides this thread is still  Smokin  and we have so many more people trying to make a difference
                                                      Chet

[ThothTheSecond]

I donated money to Archur as well, as I have stated before, but purely for the fact that it was his "idea" that got me interested in FE.  One would think that I have lost faith in AQ, but the reality is I never had faith in him as a person, but rather for the concept.  His downfall was his attitude and feeling he needed to respond to his naysayers. 

He is looking for utopia in a world of scoundrels (NO, I'm not calling anyone here a scoundrel, just a figure of speech) and he will never find it.  His magdrive forum would have been great for him if he had just moderated it to his wishes instead of spitting venom.  Don't like someone, delete 'em.

I am a member of a stock forum which has the option of ignoring someone.  I think it is a great idea as it allows those who get "distracted" up in debate to apply a personal filter.  Perhaps an option once a new hoster is found.  For those who don't like the skeptics, press ignore and that persons posts never appear when you are viewing, but everyone else can see them.  Just a thought.

AQ was his own worst enemy here, everyone who slagged him, or he slagged, was just fuel for the fire.  As I have said before, he needed a middleman so he could focus, but he could not leave it alone and had to jump in with his rants and deadlines.

Anyway, I'm not saying anything here that hasn't been said over and over, just bored at work.

On another note, has anyone seen this older forum thread:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread147062/pg2

in particular a post on 28-7-2005 @ 2:35pm by bargaindan

[g4macdad]

Why do you still defend AQ?

He took the money and ran, tail between his legs.

He has no honor, he has no credibility.

He has been called out on many lies and has kept none of his promises.

He has shown himself to be the scam artist everyone said he is.

You have nothing  to gain by defending him (unless you are him?) You will not gain access to his secret club, it is gone. You will not gain secret information, he has none.

All you are doing is starting fights when you defend him.

Stop, and let this thread die...

-PurePower

How did I defend anyone? If you are not interested in this thread, why did YOU post, and how did you know I responded? Let me say it again....... Who is the con here?

[infringer]

I donated money to Archur as well, as I have stated before, but purely for the fact that it was his "idea" that got me interested in FE.  One would think that I have lost faith in AQ, but the reality is I never had faith in him as a person, but rather for the concept.  His downfall was his attitude and feeling he needed to respond to his naysayers. 

He is looking for utopia in a world of scoundrels (NO, I'm not calling anyone here a scoundrel, just a figure of speech) and he will never find it.  His magdrive forum would have been great for him if he had just moderated it to his wishes instead of spitting venom.  Don't like someone, delete 'em.

I am a member of a stock forum which has the option of ignoring someone.  I think it is a great idea as it allows those who get "distracted" up in debate to apply a personal filter.  Perhaps an option once a new hoster is found.  For those who don't like the skeptics, press ignore and that persons posts never appear when you are viewing, but everyone else can see them.  Just a thought.

AQ was his own worst enemy here, everyone who slagged him, or he slagged, was just fuel for the fire.  As I have said before, he needed a middleman so he could focus, but he could not leave it alone and had to jump in with his rants and deadlines.

Anyway, I'm not saying anything here that hasn't been said over and over, just bored at work.

On another note, has anyone seen this older forum thread:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread147062/pg2

in particular a post on 28-7-2005 @ 2:35pm by bargaindan

Well I would have to say if you donated money expect to get taken a little I suppose I donated a measly 20.00 and that was a lot for me...
I have donated to many causes before, I leave good tips at resturaunts as I used to work at one and I know the crap folks go through...
I think archer was a dreamer we need more folks like archer in a working since... He constantly gave hours and hours of effort...
All to try and help us.
At the price of metal you really think for a moment that archer made a dime after all was said and done hrmmmm I doubt it highly...
If anyone else is as motivated as this guy to take a stab at overunity I would gladly spot them a 20 providing I had it ...
Archer genuinely believed he had er licked but he may not have understood the complexity of what he was up against he falls in the
catagorey of an accomplished individual who belives that ever goal is achiveable easily but this was way more then he may have bargined for.

At least he didnt lie and put up some fake video as well we give the true cons less crap then Archer it is not fair.
Stephen Marks is classified as a god look at all his investors who seen absolutely nothing...
Joeseph Newman he still never got his product to market after how much investment and he is still at it and collecting money as well but I do respect Mr. Newman he is out there but he too is constantly pushing to make a differnce.
There are so many I could list and all the people who did bring something to the table had many and many of failures before bringing something to the table.
Einstien was dang near a flunkie in school who married his first cousin... But one of the greatest people to ever grace the face of this earth imho.

Strange is not always as it may appear.
And a con artist is someone who cons folks and boldly gets away with it..
I was decent to Archer he never invited me to this group I donated money yep am I pissed nope.
Do I still believe OU or free energy is cheaply achiveable for everyone Absolutely!
I do not feel used nope, there were many interesting things I have learned from this thread.
Am I inclined to still work on a gravity wheel errr not in the near future instead I shall work on something I know works...
Summer is running out quickly and space is something I do not have a ton of

Anyone wanna simplify wind power I'm all for that.
Anyone wanna give away the secret of this cheap solar cell you can make in a pizza oven after printing them with an inkjet printer...

I have a slight idea how to do this print out the material that releases electrons due to sunlinght onto a shrinky dink and when it shrinks it becomes more compact lol talk about out of the box thinkin anyhow enjoy!

I understand hard feelings and disappointment but just have to look at both sides of the scope...

[exxcomm0n]

@ Queue

Gratzi dude.

I fully expected to get fried for my reversal even though I have tried (and failed @ times) to be non partial BOTH ways (except in the personal attacks of Archer, them I saw as open season ).

But it also takes just as much courage to try a build (as you did), as well as keep your good nature and report facts pretty much without bias and for that I'd like to thank you as well.

But for God's sake don't stop!

Quinn has the rest of the month to make good on his promise and might surprise us all (in fact, I'd think a parting 10 min. video of an unassisted turning wheel would be the ultimate FU for us monkeys ) and I will give him that, but the way he deleted the google group was too akin to the 3 year olds temper tantrums he has a (relatively) long history of throwing.

I can ignore that no longer, and I ain't having it!

@ Newt

Nope.

That was me, and it just goes to show that everyone has their threshold.

www.surphzup.com is still there and has a 5 or 10 mil....wait, here it is:

Price 5 million dollars US

120 days option to buy 10 percent of purchase price.

At one percent iof minimum value this is not negatioable.

if you have seen the free designs in the trillions published and given away free, you will note I do not bargain, I would consider any lessor offer an insult and you would have no right of another offer.

patentowner@thenewdavincis.info

.........for a Pez dispenser.

It's kind of ironic that the link to get to the page saying that is titled "Just free designs".

@ ramset (Chet)

Dude, you have been amongst Archers most ardent supporters and I'm sure that he has appreciated your support greatly, but even though he did have a decent amount invested work in many of his projects, he hasn't followed through on any of them yet and I have to finally stop giving him leeway since they all (fulcrum, wheel, MkE, etc.) are 1/2 done with no conclusion as to whether they'll actually work or not.

I'm also tired of throwing out an idea, and then getting little to no feedback on it, and then a week later Archer coming in and saying the same thing and it being the greatest thing since sliced bread.

This last time (turning the roller on/off), I had to call him to the carpet on that one and finally did have him acknowledge that it was not a "original" idea, and was quite surprised when he did give credit to both myself and bullsnbears for playing with different array track types.

Too bad that attribution lasted about 1 week before he skragged his site for it's latest incarnation.

He's got the skill to build the array type that he has labeled "This will work. Archer Quinn says so.", but he hasn't built one yet.

That was on August 8th.

Does this seem the doing of an uber builder?

I've just finally hit my limit of "I am just soooooo smart, and you're not!"

Too many good people and ideas have gotten tossed by the wayside in the quest to see if Quinn will deliver.

I miss sm0ky, and Rast, and Shak, etc.

@ Thoth

I've been here since page 1 and it's been a wild ride (entertaining too). I've enjoyed your content and contribution.

What you have, or have not done is NOT for anyone to judge (but this IS the internet, and when not used for p0rn EDIT I found a new disallowed word! , is mostly for self aggrandizing   ) and your hope of a better tomorrow through nominal contribution should NOT be seen as a failure, but as a barometer of the length gone to to help mankind.

You did it. I did it.

Archer hasn't.........yet....and time is running out.

I've checked out your link, but have not yet given it the depth of thought it may deserve.

Hang tight bro.


@ Archer

1 week dude.

You used up all your "get out of cognizant thought free" or "have the social decency to thank a person once in a while" cards man.

@ all

Sorry kids, the suspension of disbelief has finally rusted out the shock mounts and bottomed out for the last time going over the train tracks.

This does not mean that I'll join the ranks of those spouting "That'll never work!", but I might be a bit more parsimonious in my support of someone that says "I have all the answers and I'll give them to you in my own sweet time".

It also doesn't mean I recant any and everything I've said in this thread. It means that unless he can deliver, I have finally given up on "The great (and very late) Archer Quinn", should he not deliver by the end of the week.

Keep the faith in helping your fellow man. Everyone can't be like this.

'Nuff said?