Roll on the 20th June

[markdansie]

@Smokey,
having been fortunate enough to travelled the world and meeting several inventors, one common mistake is they often destroy one prototype that worked or at least supported their theories, only never to be able to reproduce it.
Many also try and develop theories to explain what is happenning.
The net result is they make no progress. (Go read 4 years of "lead Out Theory")
I was happy that you are not attempting such explanations other than those based on your direct observations.
The other suggestion is to keep your original device no matter what as a reference and attempt modifications on a new device.
Now for some questions.
1. The stoppers or travel limiters for the rods, how much have you played with them and what influence do they have (moving in or out)
2. Is it possible to get some more still photographs of your unit (some close ups)
My first priority is to get something that runs (even if its crude) then take one step at a time. i may repeat a lot of mistakes but that is part of the learning process.
Kind Regards
Mark

[exxcomm0n]

@ Exx, 

thanks for your comments.  im with you on everything you said there. unfortunately, to implement these things at this point, would mean rebuilding the entire thing, to the "new design"

No worries man. Get the one that's worked before to work again, and for the love of Pete, make a vid of it doing that.

After that "Mark II" ideas can come into play.

[mscoffman]

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having been fortunate enough to travelled the world and meeting several inventors, one common mistake is they often destroy one prototype that worked or at least supported their theories, only never to be able to reproduce it.
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@Mark

That’s my take on things too. Even though I haven't met the people
personally, information on the internet seems that some people loose
an operational device and then spend a lifetime trying to reproduce it.
I can’t think of anything more frustrating. So I believe in listening to
what people say they saw, while discounting the same folks theories
on why it was happening. Obviously one has to use statistics to
eliminate the few bad apples.

I think we need to develop an “inverse” emotional function that causes us
to become less emotional the closer an overunity device is to operation.
This will prevent an Acher proto-style emotional blow-up, right at the
time the most critical technical events and thinking needs to be unfolding.
Not doing so is a recipe for continuing to have things blown back without
being able to make progress, like a black-hole or critical mass of metal
isotope or something.

I have a lot of theoretical ideas on this subject but I'm not discussing
them for precisely this reason.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[sm0ky2]

1. The stoppers or travel limiters for the rods, how much have you played with them and what influence do they have (moving in or out)
2. Is it possible to get some more still photographs of your unit (some close A)
My first priority is to get something that runs (even if its crude) then take one step at a time. i may repeat a lot of mistakes but that is part of the learning process.
Kind Regards
Mark

The difference in this scenerio is that there are at least a few hundred protoypes (working or not) of this same design all over the world. What i have built is my sloppy attempt at a recreation of Archer Quinn's original design.

i'll get a short vid of the device to post here shortly. and more clips after the modifications and re-assembly. I'm only going to turn this slowly a few times to show the rod-movement. Keep in mind that the outer magnetic arrays are only half-mounted right now, for adjustability purposes. And that at least two of the linear bearings have broken their glue, and are basically falling apart. you may also notice that some of the magnets are held onto the rods with tape.

About the Rod-Stoppers.....  What i have found is there is a "range" of movement, that fits within your particular flux to mass ratio. Basically, the distance you allow your rods to move, is defined by your magnet's ability to lift the rod-mass. That is the "upward clearance".  on the other stopper, it must also keep the rod from falling too close to the lower array, that it prevents entry into the field. (the wall) This is the "downward clearance".
Exact positioning of the stoppers depends on how you built your wheel, where you placed the arrays, ect. Their purpose is simply to restrict the movement of the rod. You want them to be centered. meaning that when the rod itself is centered on the wheel, there is an equal clearance on each side. This controls the imbalance of mass on the wheel. I've adjusted mine to the outer and inner limits of various magnetic arrangements, and it seems to work best having them close to the center of that "range". Moving them in / out will increase/decrease the strength of the upper and lower field interactions inversely. the effect is similar to changing the distance of the outer arrays themselves.

anyways heres a short youtube vid, before i take this thing apart and start re-glueing everything.... this stuff dries quick so this hopefully wont take long to fix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtfYaatHpX8
sorry about the lighting, i didnt realize it had come out so dark.
i'll fix that for the next vid

and heres a pic i just took of the dissasembled wheel. the linear bearings were removed from the top 3 rollers, leaving their bottom rollers secure to the wheel. each bearing-top was laid out on a paper, and numbered. its' associated number was then taped to the bearing-bottom on the wheel face for reassembly. each set of bearings was nmbered with the rod-number so thye all go back the way they were.

[infringer]

interesting I never drew conclusions from why the stoppers were put in place...

I think we need some details on each stopper ...

Your explanation leads me to believe you think the stopper is helping it evade the wall which makes little or no sense to me because if you hold the magnet closer to the magnetic field the more the wall should have a negative effect maybe I need to reread your post but I think you must elaborate more on the stopper cause this may be a key element of the working device...