Roll on the 20th June

[mscoffman]

@all

My wish would be if someone gets it running they would
"mass produce" the wheel portion. That is a very difficult
component to get right. Wood is not known for it's
constant density. We also need to know whether the arm
bearings can or should contain any friction at all. Mass
produced wheels could be proof tested on even a single
operating machine.

This component is common between the magnet array and solenoid
arc machines. Otherwise the I consider the operation of the two
machines as being different. If there is any way, Archer, that you
could find the make of motorbike wheel-motor that you used
previously It would make a whole lot of sense to use an identical
model. If it was a DC brush model then current could flow in either direction
and the motor or solenoid coil could operate as a generator, motor,
or brake and even exchange functions within a rev. (when the switch
was on.) Some wheel motors are highly efficient and may be a source
of overunity themselves. Electronic instruments like an oscilloscope
can help determine what is actually going on.

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If this works I. Newton and friends *were* wrong. They accepted
conservation of energy without experimentation to show it as
always true and how the potential/dynamic energy interchanged
actually worked because they observed it only with the weakest
longest range force. By the time we obtained Neo magnets the
conservation of energy law was already set firmly in place. It's
even possible that Bessler, for example, understood the operation
of his wheel from first mathematical principles. It's time for critics
to be silent, because Archer has got a lot to shoot at.

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:S:MarkSCoffman

[The Eskimo Quinn]

@ Mark

wow, very good idea on mass producing a generic wheel for modification by the builder, that way any new discovery is easily understood and copied. Best idea on the entire site i dare say since it began, Stephan should have note of that.

as to the original motor I don't know the brand but they were grey, and i found a couple more in hard rubbish years later so they must have been reasonably common, they were power from the handles, not a foot accelerator. Of special note though is the original machine did not have neo magnets, but the wheel was very light clear plastic tube. The actual accident of discovery i believe though was in the finding of the small low voltage electromagnet in the box of electrical gear i got.

Though it seems you can buy or order electromagnets to size and voltage readily anyway, the fortunate accident was that it was the right voltage for the motor/generator, i can claim design for the mechanical components, the electrical match was a fluke, which is quite funny to me as i work in electrical engineering not mechanical.

PS: I uploaded a copy of a hydro generator for a tap on here once, now that as a remember had virtually zero cog effect as it used the copper coiled for induction without an iron core, as i understand it that is how the wind turbines operate without cogging, or that thump thump between magnets as is found when turning old style magnet motors, it is possible some of the scooter motors were built the same. I will try to find a copy of the old hydro i uploaded here and on the old surphzup site, unless someone here has it and can reload it.

[AB Hammer]

Quinn

Good to see you here back posting. Heavy but balanced base wheels help in any wheel build. Each step of a build has to have a balanced structure and balanced application then any slide action can be as honest as possible.

Alan

[The Eskimo Quinn]

Quinn

Good to see you here back posting. Heavy but balanced base wheels help in any wheel build. Each step of a build has to have a balanced structure and balanced application then any slide action can be as honest as possible.

Alan

quite right, the heavier the wheel the better, especially with slide rods and magnetic twist and torque, i see you tried to write a build thread, but our old friend just could not leave the thread for what it was.

I am planning a 1 metre stainlees steel wheel 3 or 4mm plate, with a centre key hole fitted to suit the size shaft and matching key to the turbine, so i simply have to slide it onto an existing wind turbine, this completes much of the wheel in one easy step, with easy reproduction, no bearing builds nothing to do but fix the turbine down to a table and start from there, and you know that it is genuinely is producing energy without question from any other builder or examination team when finished

[sm0ky2]

@all
.. Wood is not known for it's
constant density....
:S:MarkSCoffman

Amen to that brother.  If you noticed on some of my shots of the back side of my wheel, you see a bunch of pennies glued around it.
This was done prior to mounting anything on it, to balance the wheel. similar to what is done to your car tire, but i had to add weight in several places to get it right. i didnt have a computer to tell me exactly how much and where to place the weights.

also, i found that one of the wooden rods i made is not consistent mass throughout its length. One of the things i did during this last recalibration, was center-balance that rod and remove wood from here and there until it balanced. The other two rods were not perfect, but close enough that i didnt feel the need to mess with them.
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If i had the $$ to re-do it right, my choice would be to use Acrylic.
1) i like acrylic wheels, they are sturdy, and balanced throughout. no eddy currents, easily cut/drilled. i could probably go on...
and 2) you can see through it. transparency limits the critics responses to some degree. (no hidden motors, tricks, ect)

That stuff has gotten expensive in days of late... use to be a mere $15 for a 8x8ft sheet, now that sheet costs almost $80.....
sometimes you can find cut scraps for cheap in the scrap bin at your local hardware store, if you keep an eye out...