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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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exxcomm0n

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 29, 2011, 01:24:43 AM
you just admitted that it was a donation... if you gave (donated) him money there is no debt.
indeed. but you didn't...
again you acknowledge it was a donation... not a debt.
to be perfectly clear... and you have been, it was a donation. thus, there is no debt and you are owed nothing. if you want him to 'deliver', simply produce your contract with archer that guarantees his 'performance'.

i'd say the above idiocy puts you far ahead of archer... but i'm not an official websters judge. ;)

Wilby ...yer too cute.

Do some investigation into thread history and you'll see he offered the money back at one point in the past.
Do your own research.

I quaver in the face of yer appraisal and the indisputable quality thereof.

I should go now, shame faced by your great understanding, but your posting history here and in other threads has been that of a troll, and so I don't worry 'bout it much.

:D

Next observation?

When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: exxcomm0n on July 29, 2011, 02:26:08 AM
Wilby ...yer too cute.

Do some investigation into thread history and you'll see he offered the money back at one point in the past.
Do your own research.
i've read the thread in entirety, i am well aware of the players and poseurs.  regardless... there is no debt.

Quote from: exxcomm0n on July 29, 2011, 01:11:02 AM
I quaver in the face of yer appraisal and the indisputable quality thereof.

I should go now, shame faced by your great understanding, but your posting history here and in other threads has been that of a troll, and so I don't worry 'bout it much.

:D

Next observation?
and i quaver in the face of your ad hominem... not. did you have a cogent argument or are you just trying to sandbag points? ;)

next logical fallacy...
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

exxcomm0n

@ Smoky

Quote from: sm0ky2 on July 28, 2011, 10:10:10 PM
@ Exx
thanks for the reply,  ive torn through the problem of the overslung/underslung rods when they are offset from the axis.
both mentally, and physically.. There are notable problems, as you mentioned, and also the angle of entry into the magnetic array(s) with respect to each rod, is off-center to the center of gravity of the wheel itself. This is why i think the bending occurs. The off-set model i did with wooden rods, were sturdy enough that they did not bend, but friction fron the twisting got the best of me, and they did not slide properly.

The main problem  have here is this... A rear-face mounted wheel just is not pheasable. At least not with the materials i can easily obtain.
not sturdy enough

The center axle is sturdy enough to hold a 200lb man sitting on the stone wheel.
But,. theres a solid axle in the center of the spindle.

Drilling through the spindle wont work, because the center axle
is stationary, while the outer spindle spins on top of it.

DING!
This is the part I forgot about and then used the incorrect nomenclature (I think) to try to describe. Mea culpa.

The drill suggestion I have assumes a solid axle with ball bearings on either side set in twin supporting structures, not a axle/spindle w/ a post inside it. (That is the correct way to say it, right? I'm so confused......)

This might help:
1spin·dle  noun \ˈspin-dÉ™l\Definition of SPINDLE<snip>3 a   : the bar or shaft usually of square section that carries the knobs and actuates the latch or bolt of a lock
   b (1)   : a turned often decorative piece (as in a baluster)
   (2)   : newel
   c (1)   : a revolving piece especially when thinner than a shaft   
  (2)
   : a horizontal or vertical axle revolving on pin or pivot ends

Using the m-w.com approved definition above, the spindle you describe is the "axle revolving on pin", and the one I mean is "axle revolving on pivot ends".
I understand it's kind of hard to drill through all of your bearing surfaces and have the bearing still work. ;)

Sorry I made that clear as mud.

Quote from: sm0ky2 on July 28, 2011, 10:10:10 PM
My sort of "last resort" idea, was to attach a piece on the end of the spindle, that sticks out past the axle.
Then i can drill the holes close together, so that they just barely clear the Axle-Bolt. this gives me a much smaller offset to have to deal with.
As well as serving the purpose of the stabalizing center-guide.

Yup! Quite doable, replaceable in case of error or re-adjustment, and fairly cheap.

Quote from: sm0ky2 on July 28, 2011, 10:10:10 PM
im still concerned with friction at this center point, and i may consider an EB-type function on the center piece.

True 'nuff. Every surface contacts robs effect.

Quote from: sm0ky2 on July 28, 2011, 10:10:10 PM
The new EB's im designing are triangular. using 3 bearings
i think it should function the same with 3, just have one less frictional surface - so its an upgrade i believe.

<snip- below this answered in post to Crooker>

I thought about them too and will be VERY interested in your design and it's results as you're actually building it and I never did as the angles involved gave me headaches. ;)
You save frictive surface as you say, and lose the weight variables of an extra post and bearing per EB, so it just makes sense if you can make it work.

Consider the idea of the both end pivoting axle dude, and I look forward to your progress!
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

exxcomm0n

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 29, 2011, 02:41:01 AM
i've read the thread in entirety, i am well aware of the players and poseurs.  regardless... there is no debt.
and i quaver in the face of your ad hominem... not. did you have a cogent argument or are you just trying to sandbag points? ;)

next logical fallacy...

I'll put my logical fallacy up against your logical fellatio anytime bud. ;)

You opinion is duly noted and round filed.

You're not as amusing as Crooker and your posts are historically self serving as I noted before, so we're done now.
Have a nice day.
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

ramset

The debt thing was "weak",Archer's intent always sincere!!
The whole thing was more like I'm [archer] bustin my ass to make this work
I know it will work, I'm going into hock and spending every penny I have and then some ....will you help me?


Money back?? Thats girly crap!

you're either willing to help this community "no strings attached"
Or your Not?
I give when it hurts to give I don't care for a gaurantee or a refund
I just thank my creator [sorry W] for men like Archer and others here
that offer me a chance to be involved in a productive way,To labor so they can labor.It actually feels Really Good to do ,gives my day more purpose!
 
A simbiotic relationship  that needs to be more prevelant in our community if we are ever going to make this world a better place!
You want to change the world?
Be that change............
Cough it up.........

Chet
PS
Sorry SmOkey But Donating is very important to this Cause,This Blemish
is quite counter productive for our Community.

I hope they can Move On......................

Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma