Roll on the 20th June

[CuriousChris]

To those who understand physics this is not for you

CRAYON EXPLANATION

The basic maths for physics in falling object is this- If it takes 1 kilowatt of energy to lift an object, then the same object falling that distance can create 1 kilowatt of energy, or in simple terms fall is equal to lift in energy. Now in the film we will say that the fall from 12 oclock to 6 oclock is equal to 1 kilowatt, so in simple math it would take 1 kilowatt to lift it back to the top or 12 oclock, now having seen the film, how far do you have to lift the driver or roller? a little less than half way, so you need to lift only half the distance to the top, therefore you only need half the energy for lift or 500watts, so with 1 kilowatt of fall and 500watts of lift you have 500watts over unity or excess power. No physics or math in the world can change that truth or the facts of the film. Newton is done.

For those wishing the fastest route from the film to use, that is simple, any wind turbine or small water wheel providing the 50 percent input gets 100 percent output, even without any other modification

The basis of quinns argument is the following (taken from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEwzalCFdKw )
If you place a 5 cent coin on the top of a bicycle wheel and let it rotate. it might only get to 90% of the way. let it fall back just 10% and you have returned 100% of the energy.

This is so clearly wrong and totally naive. "Crayon Reasoning" you might say.

Ignoring friction, If you attached a generator to that wheel and arranged for it to extract 100% of the energy, the wheel will rotate to the bottom and stop dead. there is no energy left to drive it further.
If you arrange to take only 50%. of the energy then the wheel will rotate 75% of the way around (50% of the way back up), if you now extract 100% of the remaining (50% of the original) the wheel will rotate to the bottom and stop dead.

No matter how many times you allow the wheel to rock backwards and forwards you cannot take out of it more than you put into it. resulting in having to put exactly the same amount in as you did originally if you want to start the process again.

The example Quinn gives confirms conservation of energy, it does not deny it. At first it makes you stop and think. and then logic kicks in and says "hey what" and you realise you have been duped.

Also the smot in the video does not continue past the bottom. it loses potential energy (due to friction and rolling losses). the potential energy it loses is the potential energy given to it when he moves the roller into the magnetic field (yes with the stick). If it did not lose the potential energy given it then it should continue to rotate. In the real world we have to deal with frictional losses, so it would never continue to rotate.

Quinn, Why didn't you just move the smot around so the magnets started at the bottom? Then there is no need to move the roller part way up the wall?

I am willing to bet the reason why he doesn't is because if he did the roller would hit the sticky point and stop. it could not go past it no matter how many configurations of magnets he tried.

CC

Go to my gotcha's thread for a possible solution to the smot problem using aluminium
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11314.msg298397#new
I don't spell it out, but anyone "skilled in the art" should be able to work out what I am hinting at.

[Justalabrat]

 The Eskimo Quinn's web site, archurian.com, is down. Did he go underground again?

[The Eskimo Quinn]

The Eskimo Quinn's web site, archurian.com, is down. Did he go underground again?

http://archurian.com

well many of you finally got your wish, only death makes the subject more famous.

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copy whatever you can, i cannot keep the site up afterwards.

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[exxcomm0n]

Ya know, after exhibiting the curiosity that most folk have when driving past an auto accident, I came back to take a look@ the thread and see if I missed anything since I don't come here often anymore.

It seems I hadn't, but in going to check if Crooker's site had bitten the big one yet, I found it's still available and he's added a "NewsFlash!", and I quote (copy/paste).......

"Newsflash

Archer Expected to be dead by end february 2012

killed by Australian Government. all docs will be available for download"
http://archurian.com

Bummer that there's no (other) new content to disprove my stance that Crooker is what I deem him as. But should the newsflash be true, the entertainment value of the dancing monkey will be missed.