Roll on the 20th June

[Slavo]

for completeness the rod with weights design must be positioned so at the wheel that plane of the rod lies on the rotation axis

opposite is stupid mistake but thats what i thought about first

[ramset]

SO I guess if you can't do it with a pencil[computer] it can't be done? Guys [maybe gals] scribbled in caves a long time a go they probably felt the same way   im sure as time goes on our pencil scratches of today will look just as strange as cave drawings     Things change sometimes the rules    a lot of waisted life has gone by in the past sticking to old rules [laws]  Folks don't take to change very easy  [Perfectly understandable]   we've been stuck in a fossil fuel rut ever since it became obvious you could make money    same thing with electricity  its all show me the money       Archer  and others are striving to change that what are some of you doing?  hopefully getting ready     Chet 

[legendre]

i actually have a question for legendre and all his knocker mates, do you have any vids? even a photo of something you built? Lego even??

all that mouth and not an engineering bone in any of your collective bodies, so your input here is worth what?

Archer,

For all your bluster and argument from authority, you've not even offered a coherent design to build. All you have offered are a smattering of half-built projects, nutty conspiracy theories and rambling, invective-laced tirades against Issac Newton and "The Scientific Establishment" which lack any basis in objective reality.

Every informed person knows that perpetual motion machines don't work - but more importantly - better informed people understand the physical laws which preclude such a device from ever working. So just what is it about your 'wheel that's always a little heavier on one side' that distinguishes it from the hundreds or thousands of non-working wheels which have preceded it? What new mechanism or principle have you discovered that falsifies three hundred years of science?

Truly, if you had such a novel discovery, the spinny thing would be but a curious sideshow in the Archer Quinn Screws Science Circus. But you have no such novelty, no such discovery and hence you have nothing to show but a lot of foul language and a small band of well-meaning followers who you shamelessly lead down the lollipop lane to the gumdrop garden for a pie-in-the-sky eating contest without any sense of conscience. Narcissistic is right; this entire episode is completely by, for and about you.

That said, if silly perpetual motion claims are what it takes to get a person interested in physics and engineering, that's not entirely bad, and anyone who follows this debacle through to its inevitable end should come away a bit wiser for the experience. They may even pick up some useful knowledge along the way - and of course, knowledge is power**.

(** Figuratively speaking, of course.)

And as for things that I've built, you'd probably find them fairly uninteresting.. they conform to physical laws, rely on established principles and work as expected. Pretty mundane, for sure.

-L

[ramset]

SEE people don't like change  it scares them 'things are fine[realy!!!] why you rockin the boat with all this Crazy thinking     the pencil works fine    look around you stupid   look at all the pencil has done you must be a crazy guy  well Archer's playing with crayons [like crazy guy's do sometimes]  his visions are different    he doesn't use the pencil to tell him 'what to do'   and some crazy wild things  [as outlined in this thread ] can happen   Chet

[legendre]

Chet,

SEE people don't like change  it scares them

Are you suggesting that human fears are somehow related to the fact that perpetual motion machines don't work? Such things are governed by physical laws far more powerful than human emotions.

well Archer's playing with crayons [like crazy guy's do sometimes]  his visions are different

Different from whom or what?? He reads very much like scores of other conspiracy theorists and free energy claimants on the Internet. You can hardly swing a cat around here, without hitting some guy with a wheel full of magnets, HHO gas generator or trifiliar-wound coil. Do you see a sort of pattern developing, here?

he doesn't use the pencil to tell him 'what to do'   and some crazy wild things  [as outlined in this thread ] can happen

I'll give you that; this thread has more than its alloted share of crazy.

-L