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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Quote from: purepower on June 06, 2008, 01:47:45 AM
In the pictures I have no "weights" attached. The wheel assembly at the end is to I can make it balance at any position like Archer does with the control rods.

What is the wheel assembly then? Weightless?

I didn't see the "control rods" extend any farther out then the end of the beam in Archers video.

Yet you don't see that attaching a weight to a rigid extension changes the lever?

Try it with string, really.

Actually I tried to convince the wife last night that a "string" is as good as a "rod" and applies force in the same manner.

She still made me sleep on the couch <sigh>.
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

Bubba1

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Quote...If we have a perfectly balanced wheel setting vertical. Attach two exact same weights
at 180 degrees on the wheels perimeter. Now we set the wheel so one weight is at 1 oclock and the other is at 7 oclock. Why does the wheel turn?  The weights will both end up at 3 and 9 oclock after a rocking pattern slowly dimenishes, right?

Wrong!  If the wheel was perfectly balanced (stayed wherever you put it) and added "two exact same weights at 180 degrees on the wheels perimeter", the wheel would still stay wherever it was put (Newtonian).  The center of gravity of the wheel is at the lowest point no matter which part of the wheel is up.

Archer does not have a wheel, he has a lever with the support point above the lever.  If the lever is balanced, the center of gravity is directly under the support point (the lowest point it can find).  If the lever gets out of balance even a little bit, the center of gravity of the lever will try to get back to the lowest point it can by rotating around the support point, coming to rest once again directly under the support point, after rocking back and forth for a while dissipating the kinetic energy gained by being in
motion.

Quoteshort side arm weight 14.95 kg
long side 14.95 kg

The 2 sides need to have more than just the same weights, in order to be in balance they need to have the same torque (more Newton).  If the 2 sides are 1.2 meters long and 6 meters long and if they are evenly distributed, the torque might be roughly 0.6 meters X 14.95kg = 8.97kg-m for the short side, and 3m X 14.95kg = 44.85 kg-m on the long side.  However from what I can see from the video the weights are not evenly distributed, but I can;t tell for sure.  I do not see OU convincingly displayed on Archer's video.  I will say this, he seems dedicated and has put a lot of time, money, energy into this project.  Must be a true believer.

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Quote from: greendoor on June 06, 2008, 03:12:45 AM
Doooodz - when is Ashton Kutcher gonna jump out from that bush and say "you've been punk'd"?  The 20th you reckon?  Or is that really you, John Clarke ... one of nature's true gentlemen?

Nice name, alluding to "What's Behind The Green Door" circa 1972?

Duuuuuuuuuude..........hardcore! :D

Quote from: greendoor on June 06, 2008, 03:12:45 AM
I come here looking for serious discussion about overunity - but this is more like a social experiment in mental health care ... they say there is a very fine line between genius and madness, because both use their brains more than normal people. 

Archer's own potty mouth displays his mental and spiritual condition.  Nothing good is going to spring up from this particular sewer, folks.  Nothing to see here - move right along now ...

Seriously.  No free-energy breakthrough can come from anyone who does not understand that Energy is not measured in kilograms.  I'm more alarmed at the spectators who are egging him on.  That's just cruel.  (Unless this really is a radio or tv stunt in progress - in which case, try to be even funnier for the sound bites).

Funny, people are still wondering over Teslas patent descriptions, but that damned power outlet keeps cranking out the AC current.
He musta described that one better than all the other patents or used different terminology.

Quote from: greendoor on June 06, 2008, 03:12:45 AM
Sadly, I fear that Archer genuinely believes his own hype. The blind leading the blind. 

This whole sad episode is a bit like a troll roasting - but in reverse.  The lunatics appear to have taken over the asylum. 

This just taints the genuine efforts of the whole overunity community.  Maybe Archer is a paid spook, to divert attention from the serious projects being worked on by people with a stronger grasp on reality?

I may be an oilman - but I genuinely believe that free-energy exists and must be used.  I want to heat my house and run my car with free energy.  I don't need to be bad-mouthed by a misguided malcontent for daring to question this kind of madness.  I expect i'll be flamed for this - but people! Get a grip! 

You don't like his chosen method of discourse. I have to agree with you there.

But call anyone insane (who else live in asylums outside of staff?) for not choosing to bow to formulas and computer simulations?

I'm sure a car crash can be rendered in a formulaic fashion but the formula only dulls the pencil lead, a car crash can dull your nervous system.

As to tainting, seems I'll have to agree with you there since we both believe that the others arguments are as close as the "taint" is to the rectum, and are worth the same product.

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Quote from: exxcomm0n on June 06, 2008, 10:48:43 AM
You're right! That seqway idea is fantastic!

We can race it next to my old school fossil fuel motorbike with attached oil refinery and we'll see which one is more efficient!

Not a good analogy dude. :D


Nah, I was being silly.

Don't worry I "get it".  This invention is not going to produce oil nor be used in a car as a means of direct power generation, it will be used to generate free electricity for the new generation of electric vehicles.


If you stop and think about it though, Archer's aggression is misplaced.  Why is it the end of Big Oil?  Petroleum will still be needed to produce all the plastic, asphalt, lubricants, etc and free energy will not be replacing that need.

I think Archer should be claiming anyone opressing FE/OU ideas are 'Coal Men' not 'Oil Men'.  Think about it. If vehicles are going electric, how is most of it produced?  Coal.  His invention is to produce the juice to run your house, replacing what?  Coal.

So I think everyone should change their rhetoric to beat the opression of Big Coal.  Die you Big Coal mother f@kers!!