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[spinner]

Ummmmm, spinner,
if you watch Archers video #2 of his third set, around the 1:30 point, you will clearly see 1Kg lift 5.3KG, plus the heavy end of the lever. which is likely at least another KG, if not more.
he then removes the extra 5.3 KG and shows that the lever is still heavy on the short end.
any insight you have into this would be greatly appreciated.

ciao, Dirt

Look, believe me or not, i'm not able to evaluate the videos right now (sitting in a boat, and WiFi is slow so the youTube is off-limits to me...)

But if "1 kg" lifts "5,3kg" on a "5:1" allmost balanced lever, it seems nothing special to me...?
DirtDiggler, Peace? You're OK!

[MrKai]

Ummmmm, spinner,
if you watch Archers video #2 of his third set, around the 1:30 point, you will clearly see 1Kg lift 5.3KG, plus the heavy end of the lever. which is likely at least another KG, if not more.

Dirt...

The end with the bottle in the air *is the heavy end* man   This is why when he lets go of the short end, which he is holding in place with his hand, the long end falls. It is heavier.

Not matter how much babble he does about who-weights-what and what ratio is what...the heavy end is going to fall.

It its unweighted state, the long end is heavier than the short end. It is unbalanced.

o any weight you add to the heavy end makes it *heavier still*. None of what you are seeing is miraculous in any way

This is what I think you keep totally missing here.

[dirt diggler]

MrKai:

well of coarse the long end is heavier when the 1KG bottle of water is on it, thats the whole point!!
he is having to hold against the 1KG bottle, that is trying to lift the 5.3KG chunck of steel angle, plus the 1-2KG that is required to ensure that the short end is heavy.
once the 1KG bottle is removed, and the 5.3KG piece of steel is removed, the short end is still heavy, as seen by the drum pulling the long end up.
please watch and listen to the video again, it clearly shows this is what happens.

@ spinner:
peace brother, I'm not trying to cause problems, I'm just looking for answers. 
enjoy the boating

ciao, Dirt

[purepower]

Hmm,
I just watched again this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9qMfgbE0ys

and there he says, he is using 2 fulcrums !

So he is trying to get the 1 Kg water up somehow with a 2nd beam fulcrum.

Does anyone understand how the 2 fulcrums interact then ?
Can anyone draw a few pictures or an animation to show
how these 2 fulcrums work together to lift up the weights again ?

( the 2 fulcrums seems to be a totally different unit than his perpetual wheel...!)

I his plan for the 2nd lever is to reset the light weight at the end of the first lever. He will do this by dropping the heavy weights the first lever lifted. This is taking place of the pulleys in the pic as he understands he will lose less to friction in the lever.

Problem. We all know the lever is weighed to the extended end to aid the 1.2 1 kg water. So in reality, the water is doing 1.2*5= 6 1*5= 5 kg lift (to use Archurian math) an the weight of the lever is doing the rest. If we then remove the 1.2 1 kg when it is down, the lever now only has slightly less than 6 5 kg available (the rest is tied up keeping the lever lifted). So now to lift the 1.2 1 kgs back up, we would need to build a slightly better than 5:1 lever so the slightly less than 6 5 kgs can lift the 1.2 1 kgs back to start.

Sounds like PM, until you take into account losses. There will be much due to the complexity of adding and removing the weights, drag, bearing friction, etc... So at the end of the day, we have another failed PM machine, and the device is nowhere near OU...

-PurePower

EDIT: "1.2 kg" should be "1 kg;" "6 kg" should be "5 kg;" analysis remains the same, just different values

[ramset]

'Problem. We all know the lever is weighed to the extended end to aid the 1.2 kg water'
I  thought the lever weighted to the short end
PS PURE POWER you know this BATMAN GUY Chet