Roll on the 20th June

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi Sean
I like your idea but in the real world you have pro's and con's.
I rememeber the threat about my Trigate on this forum. there were people saying its OU and people saying it wasn't, at no stage did I say it was but I had people attract me trying to prove it wasn't.
My point was even in this forum you will have people say something doesn't work or isn't right and other argueing the opposite its humen nature.
With this forum its alittle worse because you have a guy thinking his god and thinking he knows more then anyother humen on earth before and now, yet he has been wrong in basic things.
If Archer and his follows didn't come out so aggresive in the begining this forum would have been alot calmer. (not puting you in that group of aggresive followers Sean)
Take Care Sean
Graham

Ps the differance between my Trigate and Achers design was you could see the proof in videos I posted and drawing, of which Archer has shown no proof also people including you Sean biult my gate and could see for them selves that it worked, noone has biuld a working model of anything Archer has put up.

[Bulbz]

Hi All
Changed my mind again and desided to post, I know nothing about how planes work but I find dirts statement hard to beleave when he said he uses less fuel going up then comming down.
If thats the case wouldn't the space shuttle need a bigger tank comming down then the 3 or so story tank it uses to go up, how does it come down with no fuel at all, also bransons spaceship lands without fuel, to save weight it uses another places fuel to get it up, its own to fly around and none to land.
Call me stupid but I can't see how you can use less fuel to go up then you use to come down.
Take Care All
Graham

I fly model RC planes, and I know that some planes seem to be harder to land if the engine cuts. Some RC planes seem to float exessively, and seem to take forever comming back down when there is no power.

[Rusty_Springs]

@ Rusty(Graham)

Do not EVER think about flying a plane man, you may be hell on wheels for critical analysis, but your avionics is sadly lacking I'm afraid sir.

The plane wing needs atmosphere, the thicker the better sometimes.

It's the atmospheres movement over the wing that provides lift.

Since the upper curved part is longer, it takes more time for air to travel over it, providing lift (or this is my present understanding).

The space shuttle uses enough energy to get back sync w/ the earths spin, an then into the grip of gravity to be pulled down fast to "break into" atmosphere.

Too fast and it takes special shielding to defray the heat from friction with the air.

If they were using a lot of energy, I'd think it would be to slow down, but they ain't built that way.

No argument there exx but you still have to push against the wind to get lift don't you, comming down that could be drag because your getting lift when your trying to fall but I think thats is what flaps are for to change the wind direction( I should have said flow here shouldn't have I) so your not getting lift and the wind is pushing you down.
I could be wrong, like I said I don't know but it seams to me you get lift going up you take it away going down everything is equal except gravity, your pushing up against gravity going up gravity is helping you come down hence more energy to get up the come down meaning more fuel.
Thats how I see it but If I'm wrong in this instance its cool I can live with that because as I said I know nothing about it.
Take Care Exx
Graham

[MrKai]

If Archer and his follows didn't come out so aggresive in the begining this forum would have been alot calmer. (not puting you in that group of aggresive followers Sean)
Take Care Sean
Graham

I second this. I actually find much of this interesting...if not a bit redundant and sometimes futile...but never stupid.

I mean if it is a hobby thats cool, people like to build and tinker. It is when people make incredible claims that fly in the face of logic, reason, science and history...you know, the stuff that separates us from the rest of the species on this rock because we are cognizant of these things, that it raises an eyebrow..but most people are able to laugh it off politely.

This particular dude tho, sort of brought the outside into your world, and it will likely not be the same for awhile.

None of this should stop anyone from doing what they are doing, if they aren't doing it out of ignorance.

I mean the precision work of clanzer is something to see no matter what you are into; the ingenuity of Dusty is to be congratulated...for the sake of the art that it is...you know?

Its when you have a under educated narcissist throwing around grand claims, over-the-top accusations and wild, wild stories that it gets f-ugly.

Archer brought "us" here...talk to him

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi Exx
I just showed what happens when you jump into a field you know nothing about and your winging it so to speak, because I don't know about this field I make myself look stupid by my comments and I think thats what has happened to alot of people on here.
Take Care Exx
Graham