Roll on the 20th June

[redriderno22]

to all

do not dispair!

the 20th may be gone but tomorrow is a new day

you never know what might be coming

[Bobbotov]

I will say this: all of this has actually gotten me, on a personal level, much more interested in what's out there NOW to better serve our unchecked fuel and energy consumption.

I'm a newbie on this forum and I have not read every single page of stuff on this massive site but that is the most sensible thing I have heard so far. That is what I would like to see more people doing instead of trying to solve this problem by re-inventing a "wheel" in various permutations that have never produced anything fruitful. Conservation works. Creating better efficiencies works. These are things that can be done now with good results. They will not solve the problem but they will help buy time and start to re-educate people on preserving what we have.  Oil has never been treated with the respect it deserves since no one gave a thought about its availability.

Ever hear stories about lottery winners years after they have won? Many, many of them are broke because they squandered the fortune in a spending frenzy. The human race has been squandering its fortune in oil thinking that it is a bottomless pit (or well). Even if it is bottomless such conspicuous consumption has wrought havoc on our environment. If oil is so plentiful that we can keep using billions and billions more than we do now the Earth will have a nasty surprise for us. I am all for high prices for fuel. I am all for people thinking that Peak Oil is here because those are the only things that will get them out of their complacency to do something constructive. If not for finding new sources of alternative, non-polluting energy or making the ones we have more efficient while conserving what we have, pollution alone will cause major catastrophic problems making the depletion of oil a distant second in terms of mega-disasters.

I am not religious but if you are familiar with the Bible then the story of the talents is fitting. Oil is a resource and we have not used it prudently.  We have wasted our "talents." That is a sin ostensibly not in God's eyes but in the eyes of existence. We can beg for more talents but we may be denied. It is said and hoped that human beings are very clever. But remember, we were clever the whole time we squandered this resource too.

I remember when I was a young man the admonition to "Not abuse drugs." I never abused drugs. I always took care of them because they were expensive Same with oil. Treat every drop as precious. Stop hating it as in reality it is all we have from keeping civilization intact right now. Treat it like a fine 30 year old single malt scotch, like a perfect diamond or an ounce of high test hydroponic bud. We need oil to help us keep the machinery going while we hunt for alternatives. Oil is not the enemy. We are.

[LarryC]

Hi Newtonians,

Great victory, will your celebration ever end? But do you just enjoy stomping over the defeated remains of your victims ad infinitum?

Just wondering, there are many here who would like to test some interesting Archer concepts in peace and harmony.

I know from many of your earlier comments, that many of you parasites are here just to show us the error of our ways, so that we would quit wasting our time following the wrong path, so that we could help in real pursuit of your deemed important technology. Of course, you are parasites, since you can only talk and incapable of testing, you need real people who can test.

Thanks, but just consider that the only testers left on this thread, must be complete morons and certainly not worthy of your omniscient.

Regards, Larry

PS: Don't make me specify your names. Bow out gracefully or us Archer testors will start a new thread where you parasites are excluded. Of course you parasites can start your own thread, but then you would just eat each other up and end with nothing!

[exxcomm0n]

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I remember when I was a young man the admonition to "Not abuse drugs." I never abused drugs. I always took care of them because they were expensive Same with oil. Treat every drop as precious. Stop hating it as in reality it is all we have from keeping civilization intact right now. Treat it like a fine 30 year old single malt scotch, like a perfect diamond or an ounce of high test hydroponic bud. We need oil to help us keep the machinery going while we hunt for alternatives. Oil is not the enemy. We are.

@ Bobbo

An aces insight in this particular vein. (and GREAT sense of humor. You know my favorite part. )

But don't limit your self to oil.

As OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) as it sounds, do it with everything.

Turn off the light when leaving a room.

Turn off the tap while lathering your hands.

NEVER throw a perfectly good piece of machinery away (you'll need it next week).

Etc. etc.

I have had to all my life due to parents that grew up during the depression, and they had it "easy".
They grew up on farms.

Want to "do your part"? Here's some ideas:

1.) Get shopping bags.
Of canvas or something durable, or a box, or a milk crate.

2.) Go to a LOCAL (not corporate) establishment and ask if they can use your travel cup for coffee or mocha-latte-espresso-americano (it helps to know it's size) to go instead of making it up in a throw away cup.
See if you can do it with italian and other sodas.

3.) Save those extra napkins they always shove in the bag @ a fast food place and stuff them in your glove box.
They work for polishing windshields and glasses, as a tissue for blowing your nose (or carry a hanky), and an essential (especially for ladies) bit of equipment for emergency roadside stops.

4.) Try to avoid plastic containers of all types when possible.

EDIT

5.) Most importantly, get a bike or carpool.

....and I'm not saying this because of the litter aspect (although less of that is nice).

I'm saying it because of the energy used in producing, packaging, and shipping such things is usually oil based.

We ARE the problem!

But it's not just because of the animal we are, but because there are so many of us.

That is cold, and hateful......................and true.

[X00013]

Fuck It, Im gonna build one of these things and I'm Gonna roll on September 20th!!!  I got the lathe, the mill, the neo's , fuck it, Yeepeekyaa mutherfuckers, i'm rolling on the 20th!!!!!!!!!!!, No Newtons gonna stop me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    www.X00013.com