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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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exxcomm0n

Quote from: fletcher on June 22, 2008, 05:54:26 PM
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In this theoretical setup all potential results hinge on whether in fact the tri-gate can add momentum to the rolling mag/weight, so if it were in a wheel environment it could achieve a higher PE than it started with.

JMO's.

@ fletcher

'Xactly (Exactly), except I'm not trying to milk the tri-gate for momentum, only to conserve it (momentum). so the mags/weights can keep it instead of gravity eating it.

The outside weights EDIT and exit magnet "kick" will increase momentum.


About the tri-gate moving the rod.........

IF I can get a cylindrical magnet to follow an arc laid out (formed) by the tri-gates, can I use it to lift the rod?

The woman is gonna hate this cause it means she gets no noogie (affection) this eve.

:D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

exxcomm0n

Quote from: Evg on June 22, 2008, 06:30:18 PM
Fletcher
Theoretical thought experiment of proof

As I see it

On paper, you have just invented over unity or perpetual motion (with the help of the tri-gate)
Now it?ll take precession tooling and building a real live machine.

This is where everything falls down, who has the ability, money or guts to put it in practice?
I have seen pics and previous builds from/of your workshop and it is very impressive, but probable not good enough to build this wheel (instrument).

If only you were a scientist with a team and a 5 year government grant. Live would be different.


BS

Just an excuse not to try.

Nobody said it (FE) was gonna come shrink-wrapped. ;)

:D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

Rusty_Springs

Quote from: exxcomm0n on June 22, 2008, 06:31:53 PM
@ fletcher

'Xactly (Exactly), except I'm not trying to milk the tri-gate for momentum, only to conserve it (momentum). so the mags/weights can keep it instead of gravity eating it.

The outside weights EDIT and exit magnet "kick" will increase momentum.


About the tri-gate moving the rod.........

IF I can get a cylindrical magnet to follow an arc laid out (formed) by the tri-gates, can I use it to lift the rod?

The woman is gonna hate this cause it means she gets no noogie (affection) this eve.

:D

Hi Exx
I don't know if it will follow the Trigate in but its worth a try, I do know if you use one pole and one Trigate it will push that rod in and away towards the end of the gate.
Take Care Exx
Graham

g4macdad

Well even if Archer was just yanking our chain, he got us more united against our common enemy : Fuel Companies.

I have seen designs for plug-in electric vehicles that use solar energy, regenerative braking and wind turbines(during high-speed commutes) all combined, that are so efficient, they would bankrupt petroleum companies immediately.

We don't need Over-Unity to combat our common enemy. We just need to start FIGHTING!
Off shore drilling eh! LOL

Glad to see most did not fall for this!

Maybe there is hope.

fletcher

Rusty .. correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I remembered you recently saying that you believed your tri-gate "added momentum" across a flat surface ?!?

If it cannot, then the attract force will add momentum then the tri-gate rob the momentum [by attracting it back once thru the gate] by the same amount [no allowance made for rolling frictional losses etc] - I may have misunderstood rusty's theory however - this principle is important to establish via a simple experiment as proposed, otherwise the tri-gate would appear to be in a similar class to the smot devices & gauss guns which have trouble resetting ?!?

JMO's.

Evg .. thanks for the sentiment but the very first wheel I ever built to experiment with 10 years ago was a mag-grav wheel almost exactly the same as quinn's - I learnt a lot from that & a lot about the conservative nature of both gravity & magnets so unless I can see a simple proof of concept [POP] experiment I am very reluctant to go over old ground [no offence or slight intended to anybody].