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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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The Eskimo Quinn

I have already said this, so i will say it again, the shunt is "PART" of the wheel, and when testing the shunts, as you saw the trigates loose power when the control arm is made larger and more powerful, so no chance of lift to vertical or even any assisatance, that is why i showed them to save people money, i then looked at the train which had great velocity. made the new modifications as you saw and found a more powerful shunt.

in fact so powerful it could well outperform the rod wheel on its own in a materials cost excersise.

So i should say hey fuck that lets just throw that away and stick with the propeller over the turbine? get fucked.

I still intend to use this in the wheel, but as i have said before and the reason you should always watch all of the videos, is that anyone who has built them can tell you, if you spin it fast the rods have trouble firing, heavey or light because they pass over the mag too quickly.

So a true engineer would fully test the shunt, work out how fast his wheel will travel and make the rods accordingly. My personal opinion is that this will prove too powerful for the rods with permanent mags and need the speed of an electromag to keep up with it.

So I should stop testing a device that has achieved even for the part you have seen at 80 degrees and never seen before?, in fact not just seen, no inventor has ever even claimed coninuous jumps at that angle . Every rod has a wall, so count the rods in the 80 degree video and see how many times it breaks the wall, jumps without falling or stopping.

If this turns the wheel i have not only delivered my promise of a working wheel, but will have shown a multiple use new discovery, the rods will only turn a wheel, the track can work in elevator fashion, horizontaly and so on.

I respect rusty's work, for as i said in the videos, it was my intention to use them until i saw the result from large gates. But we have never seen them drive themselves up any level of climb which has to be possible for use, remember one thing, in his tests and every other trigate test you see, that is only its own weight it struggles with, much less provide help.

An example of this was back around 1 or 2 pages where i was advised to make the multigate as it adds accleleration. if you have enough to make 50 in a row it still can push that same light weight over the height of a matchbox on a long run up, much less any thing of use to a wheel.

Ok as to newt, sorry you dont know physics and cant read, i said vertical against the height of the length of one half of the diamter, not the same hieght as a wheel, as the length of a side is longer. take a pen and draw a line 6 inches long running right to left at 45 degrees, now turn right and go up another 6 inches at 45 degrees and you have the side of a circle as far as energy requiement goes. that is 12 inches. now take a wall climb 12 inches, it takes more energy to go straight up. or does you car that goes up 45 degree slopes go vertical too. get off the thread, you dont even know base physics.

Only one third of the arc of the lift side of a circle has the same energy requirement as vertical and that is the centre third, the rest is only slopes, so one third at vertical is the same as 100 percent at vertical over the same distance?

you own an engineering shop? All things being equal as to what an engineer would know as common sense, I doubt that.
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purepower

Actually AQ, newt is right. This is basic physics. Its called "potential energy."

Imagine a wall you want to climb over. You can either walk right ip to it and climb strait up and over, or you can build a ramp (or stairs). Either way you go, you still travel the same distance (total height) against the force of gravity. Therefor, total energy is the same.

What is different is power (energy per unit time). Since the ramp allows you to do the same work, just at a slower pace, the power is lower than climbing all at once. This is why it seems "easier," not because the energy changes.

Im not trying to start a fight, just thought you should know...

Cheers!

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PS when can we expect a vid of this all tied together? And I thought you (and many others) said clanzer's wheel was working? It didnt seem that way from his posts...

gwhy!

Hi Archer,
    Just watched your last video,  and you kept saying its never been done before, so I thought I would have a quick scout around on pooptube and here are some links for you to look at there are plenty more but thought you might like these 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoIExJEaBU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0RZk3Q1vdk

The Eskimo Quinn

actually you do not fucking read either, you are quoting a fucking vertical climb the same height as the wheel, i will say it for a third fucking time, a vertical climb the height of the length of half the circumfrence.(thats higher than the height of the wheel when you straighten out that line ) in fucking engish and crayon that means the vertical climb is higher than the fucking circle.

start reading what i write
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exxcomm0n

Quote from: purepower on July 08, 2008, 05:50:39 PM
Actually AQ, newt is right. This is basic physics. Its called "potential energy."

Imagine a wall you want to climb over. You can either walk right ip to it and climb strait up and over, or you can build a ramp (or stairs). Either way you go, you still travel the same distance (total height) against the force of gravity. Therefor, total energy is the same.

What is different is power (energy per unit time). Since the ramp allows you to do the same work, just at a slower pace, the power is lower than climbing all at once. This is why it seems "easier," not because the energy changes.

Im not trying to start a fight, just thought you should know...

Cheers!

-PurePower

PS when can we expect a vid of this all tied together? And I thought you (and many others) said clanzer's wheel was working? It didnt seem that way from his posts...

Dude, again, almost there.

But if you change "you" to "a car" and give it the same parameters of trying to go straight up a wall vs. using a (switchback) ramp (actually covering more distance) which way do you think the car will ever achieve the top of the wall, let alone use less energy.

I'd rather hit a ramp in a moving car than a wall.

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