Roll on the 20th June

[therealrasta]

@Pure

Thanks for all your conclusions an answers.. Also thank you for not being a dick 

Off topic here.. But take a look see at searl..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-O7WNvKSvY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46gRnzI2os0

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5134.msg111726.html#new

I wish someone would attempt a build.. It is highly costly which I am not able to afford.

[purepower]

there now you are talking, add some more of what you think,,,,,,, we may have a winner

add your thoughts to rusty's trigates

peter

well I screwed that up

this is my relpy

sorry

peter

All of this has come out before, its just been diluted in my analysis of othe ideas from other posters.

I know I am a critic, but I'm not like the rest (Rusty excluded). If you look at the content of our posts and let go of these "oilmen" notions, you will see we really are here to help. This is also why we stick around! Newt and mrK fizzled out quick. They really did just want to see AQ fail. When he did, they left. I don't mean to be a sellout, but I really don't think we are on the same boat!

I'd love to add more to the trigates, bit haven't seen the right thread to do so. I don't want to hijack this one with it again, that would make AQ sad...

-PurePower

[shakman]

OKAY For the sake of this thread I've been biting my tongue a bit so here goes...

Hi Power
Totaly right mate, I was going to point that out when I first saw the vid but then I thought whats the use just wait and see what the next change Archer is going to come up with to get this going.
Take Care Power
Graham

@Graham

I'd like to think I've been quite fair and have attempted to remain unbiased during your feud with Archer but I find it very hard to continue being polite to someone who was always "going to" do something but never actually does. Did you stop to think that maybe that's why Archer's getting so much support and respect, because he's actually "doing" stuff and not just hanging around here to make post-factual claims.

Start showing us and telling us stuff real-time mate. It's starting to get very hard to believe anything that you type.

PURE POWER I wouldn't laugh to hard   my friend is very high up and I hope I didn't bring a world of shit to his house and BTW its not always what you know but who you know  I am presently quite nauseous about this  this guy was a creep    is it legal to give plates out on the net  the cops said no crime was committed and will not run them   you used to be able to get this info on the net is that still possible? CHET

@Chet

Tell the cops he was taking photos of the kids. Ask the cop if he has kids. Tell him there might be a peadophile in the hood. I betcha that'll work if you want them to run the plates


@PP

"PP: 12    AQ: 0"
Fuck you're full of yourself mate. It takes an awful lot to make me swear but your arrogance is wearing thin. Even when you think you're being clever you're really just making an ass of yourself. I should just ignore you but skipping past your posts is like driving past a horrible accident, I feel compelled to look even though I know it's most probably going to be ugly.

=I JUST DELETED A WHOLE PARAGRAPH - I DON'T WANT THE KID TO  CRY=

If you look at the real scoreboard, the one based on a real-world physical efforts level, Archer's score has run off the board in comparison to yours.

I just noticed Rasta had to thank you for not being a dick. If someone was thanking me for not behaving as I usually do I would have a good, long, hard think about that.

I know you're "only 21" but grow up mate. I was more mature at 16 (and probably smarter too).


@All

My next post will be productive. I promise.

shakman

[exxcomm0n]

@Mr M

Sorry, but I must disagree. I'm not wasting my time, I rather enjoy helping people. I'm sorry you can understand or appreciate that. Just because I contradict one (or many) of AQs statements dies not mean I intend to contradict his efforts. I'm just here to "clean up the trash."

I didn't think the engineer moniker used by anyone in that profession liked to be prefaced with   the politically correct prefix of "sanitation".

My dad probably would have taken offense as he was an engineer.

@Exx

Hm, that sure was an easy way out.

Who am I to argue that? If something pans out that way, it's a "gimme" type thing that I'd be a fool not to try to explain (although, doing it again, and again, and again does get a bit monotonous).

How bout you just show to energy equations, one for the vertiacl lift and one for the ramp lift. Include friction and "ramp bank contribution." Then enter values and calculate input energy, less the "banked energy contribution." No need to make a video for the construction of the ramp, just show us you pulling the block up a ramp to verify the calculations are correct.

And before I hear "ooo, that's to hard power" try explaining the contribution factor in Architian rant format.

K man.

First off, to, too, and two are not interchangeable. Let me help you with this as you help with physics and engineering.

"I need to get two more, too."

All in one sentence, all used correctly.


You still don't get it, just like with the lever.
That took too long last time, and I'm going to exercise my right as a thinking individual and learn from recent history.

I said if you don't get it it doesn't matter what I post, the end result is still the same and I addressed this when I labeled my last post to you a soliloquy.

Know what that means? Try here:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soliloquy

That give you an accurate view of how I consider this now?

Oh, and a 1:1 pulley is a string that goes up, over and back down a pulley once. No tricks, that's why I said to use this system.

System.

AKA tool/process/mechanic/lever/ladder/pulley/stairs/RAMP!

Get it yet? These are banked energy.
Only pure calculation based physics seems to disregard that these tools have to made to be used.

Why? Cause it clutters up the simple mathematical elegance of an equation?
This is the point where I start questioning the fact that pure calculations reflect real world events completely.

And what was this unanswered question? Must have missed it.

Questions. Plural. (more than one, and I'm going to have to get so completely and thoroughly baked into a crispy critter so my common sense doesn't ride backseat and it's possible to provide you with these again.)

To be honest, I also meant analogies, examples, and effects but i said what i said and we'll rein it in to that.

'Scuse (excuse) me, meditative mental medicinals merited here.

K then.

These:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg111299.html#msg111299

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The 2nd "half pipe" argument is only 1/2 fleshed out.
At the bottom, do you want the half pipe to continue, or turn into a wall?
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Quote from: purepower on July 09, 2008, 04:39:18 PM
If a ramp had the ability to create energy, then FE is no mystery! All we would need to do is roll a ball up a ramp then push it off the back! If it requires less energy to push it up than we get out by pushing it down, FE is solved! Set up a loop that spirals up, has a sudden drop and halfpipe at the bottom that takes you to the spiral back up. It won't work!

I NEVER said energy was being created! (Isn't that supposed to be impossible anyway?)
I said it took less energy (conservation) over time.

These:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg111320.html#msg111320

Could be cool, but I don't think humans can handle the G's involved quite yet.

EDIT

But for satellite launches it could be the way to go.

Do you think the energy (electricity/rail gun) will equal the energy (explosive gas/rocket) for atmosphere breaking?

What do you mean " Uses magnetism and electricity to launch the craft from grade, meaning total speed is not limited by shockwaves like jets and rockets are..."?
I thought shockwaves were caused by compressed atmosphere.

These:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg111431.html#msg111431

<snip>
In pure mathematic and physical terms, you are correct I suppose, but this is not real world.
(I should have said power WAY back, but too late now! Wink )

How are you climbing the wall? Is the wall providing the mechanics or are you?

The height of the wall is to be considered too. I can step over a 2' wall, but not a 6' one.

All real world concerns, also physical ones.
<snip>
How often do I have to do this? That (time) is the deciding factor of whether I "climb the wall" or "build a ramp".
<snip>

These:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg111437.html#msg111437

<snip>
You know much about hacking? If a computer is hooked to the net and the information on it is accessible from ANY other computer on the net at any time it is not really secure data.
Encryption can be broken, otherwise we'd still be using ROT13. Wink
<snip>
There are checks and there are CHECKS.
Ever worked for the gov't or in a gov't regulated industry?
I have. Wink
<snip>

These:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg111518.html#msg111518

<snip>
Didn't we already do this once?

Wasn't the conclusion that the terminology of 20:1 and 5:1 could be the describing the exact same lever?
<snip>
What happened to the concept of just not posting if you feel it's a waste of time?
<snip>
Is this some weird way to get back at me for that "we ain't the show" comment and criteria? Wink
<snip>

That was roughly 24 hours, and doesn't take into effect previous examples, but to be fair when taken in context, some of those could be seen as rhetorical.

But not all of them.
Some of them even had direct relation to the post from you QUOTED in the reply and query.

Imagine that from a blazer like me.

I know that I'm an old burnt out stoner that really has nothing to contribute, and my posts can be seen as a dervish dance of stupidity, but I revel in that inner peace and happiness and the fact that I'm harmless to any until they respect me enough to even consider my opinion and drivel.

I've been wrong here.
I've said I'm wrong here.
After this I have to apologize to MrM as I attributed his computational and networking contribution of a recent concern to Rast.

But I'm gonna fight for the concept of banked energy to the death.

How many times can you say those 1st 2 statements (starting with I've)?

The buzz is now completely gone, and it's a bad thing for it to not last longer than 30 min.

Are you happy now? 

My energy calculations a perfect and describe the ramp system with 100% accuracy. Calculated, tested, and true. Real life. In practice. Newtonian. And the funny thing is, there is no "banked ramp energy!"

Notice the highlighted words?

Not in yours, but perhaps in mine.(and they's scary fuggers, you've seen 'em in thread.)

I've posted pictures, ideas, suggestions using them, and we've seen how much they've benefited anyone.

But anyway, go ahead and shun the dollars, time, design, and work in the ramp to the bridge, but I'm counting them 'em every time every time I use it.

If you really want to use this arguement, then I will use it against you.

Even if AQ gets a wheel turning past a couple cycles from rest, then there is no FE! If it is able to do this, then the energy we are seeing must be the "banked wheel energy" from the past few weeks of construction!

I thought you were for ANY REFINING of ANY PROCESS (FE or not)!

Using less is always using less than you might have to otherwise (without the benefit of a tool).

Using energy to make a tool or realize a process is like a bank loan, and I'm the bank.

I invested energy in the tool in the hope of greater return of that investment and that it would enhance the environment I inhabit.

This is the last time I'm explaining this.

Here's another little something to construct that should use your banked energy wonder. Build a circular ramp with a sudden drop back to the start. The ramp has "banked energy" to help up a ball on the track, right? So try it! The ball should drop, use its kenetic energy plus the "banked" energy to go back up! Perpetual Motion! Solved by Exx's "ramp battery!"

Tell me, why wint this work? It uses your "properties" and principals. Hmm?
-PurePower

Actually, I can almost see an M. C. Escher rendering of that.
But he grooved in more dimensions than most of us, and some of those just perceptive.

It didn't work because your energy becomes so many different types, even in the space of 1 event, and mine doesn't.

I also doesn't work because it's not enhancing an already existing energy event except for making the conversion of horizontal motive energy used in rolling the ball up the ramp to potential energy so it can be realized in a vertical kinetic energy event.

It used up all my banked horizontal energy used in getting it to a vertical position by falling!

Bastige thing!

...and it only did it ONCE, that ungrateful ball!
It blatantly disregarded all the time and effort it took to make the ramp (and a circular one @ that)!

Now do the same with a wall and you may not expend energy at any time to realize upward  vertical motion without the ball touching both the wall and your fingers.

It should never be allowed to be moved with pure power. (oh GAWD that was bad, but I can never pass up a pun, "the lowest form of humor".)

Wouldn't a tool like a ramp or ladder be handy right now? (non-rhetorical)



There, I answered yours, as I usually do.

Last call.

[exxcomm0n]

Archers domain isn't resolving to a webserver, it's still registered in his name so the domain name hasn't expired.

Archers domain (surphzup.com) was registered via JKAhosting.com and JKAhosting.com is not resolving to an address just like archers isn't.  As neither are resolving it is reasonably safe to assume that the issues are related and their web and/or domain name servers are having issues.  Those issues may be temporary or permanent, without contacting the administrative contacts it's pretty much impossible to be sure, but as JKAhosting.com has a sponsored Google search query result it's also safe to assume that they aren't going to just vanish overnight.

Unless the powers that be have taken down Archer and everyone related to Archer when JKAhosting  comes back on-line it's highly likely that Archers site will too...   So don't worry about it, yet...   

Oh... Should say "Hi" and F.Y.I I'm a bit of a code tinker.   Well... I say tinker, I'm a programmer and network security professional.  Interesting forum you have here.


________

If you want an answer from the horses mouth then here's your horses :

( http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=surphzup&tld=com )
( http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=JKAhosting.com&tld=com )

I don't talk to horses, they bite.

Sorry man.

I posted comments about this fine tool usage to Rast instead of you.

You can see by how many times I had to apologize last night and admit I was wrong that I was in rare form and a little pre-occupied (migraine).

I did mean those misplaced compliments though!



Now I can go back a page and "catch up on my soaps!"

C U in a few.