Roll on the 20th June

[shakman]

Arm/weight design.

BTW - If you got this far and were wondering what these pics are all about, go back and read my second last post

shakman

PS I've added this info to my original post but just in case you missed it...

EDIT: I forgot to add another reason for using both sides of the wheel - depending on scale, total number arms etc. the swinging weights could pose a danger to the next arm...

EDIT 2: I should have also mentioned that aside from making the retun in the upward cycle easier, the lip in the cavity also protects your precious magnets from getting mashed by a swinging weight. And I failed to mention that the weight should be a heavy, non magnetic material.

[TinselKoala]

Sure, you can climb a vertical free standing ladder, if you've got the right music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFZZAu0AnK0&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7gKSeG_o8&feature=related

[The Eskimo Quinn]

i found the perfect design for a wheel, i have posted it on this thread, it is the second one "gravity only", i think you are gunna love this to death.     

from an engineer who has guided many people

http://groups.google.com/group/magdrive/browse_thread/thread/af227943869b6355

[exxcomm0n]

Sure, you can climb a vertical free standing ladder, if you've got the right music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFZZAu0AnK0&NR=1

Dude your anagram of Nikola Tesla is soooooo cool!

I like the vid too.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

Ignoring friction for a moment, gravity will always get you back to where you started, no more and no less. Agreed?

Now, ignoring the effects if the smot for a moment, all we need to do is move from gate exit to gate enterance for the cycle  to continue. Now, this will change the system energy because it is less distance. In AQs system, we will start low and end high, preparing us to use gravity to break the wall. To start low and end high we will need additional energy, right? But now that we are high and will end low (to complete the cycle), we can get that lil bit of energy back, so the system is in ballance as it was before. Okay, hold that thought.

Now let's look at the smot. You agree the smot will take energy to break. We get a lil energy moving in, but require energy to get out. Now, in reality, those two are equal. So if the smot is ballance, and the gravity portion is energy ballance, we have a ballanced system. (at least until you throw friction into the mix)

Gravity never gas been and never will be the key, Archer is finally understanding this. You can look at my posts from 2 months ago where is say the key is in the magnetics. If he can lower the "wall out energy" in relation to the "attraction in energy," he will have succeeded.

To date, nothing Archer has shown makes me think he is anywhere close. The best demo I have seen that makes me think this is even possible is Rusty's trigates.

If he succedes, it will have no gravity component (or it will be non-critical). It will use something similar to the trigates, which are not smots. Mark my words.

-PurePower

PS funny how 90% I the things I say, AQ disagrees with strongly but then confirms himself later. There was: circular lever path, significance of friction, pulley calcs, insignificance of extensions, the siphon, use of control rods to manipulate results, lever calculations, thermal accelerator flaws, potential energy, insignificance of the gravity aspect of SoG, momentum vs KE, torque calculations... And that's just the ones I can remember!

PP: 12    AQ: 0

PPS AQ has said many times before "no one can know everything." Well, this applies to him too. In physics, there are two major divisions: mechanics and "electro and magnetism." so either AQ knows everything about mechanics and has me beat there (ha!), OR he knows everything about magnetism and has rusty beat there. By his own logic he can not beat us at both because that would require him to know everything! So which is it AQ? Am I better at mechanics or is rusty better at magnetics? Hmm? I think you lose at both, but that's just me...

PP: 12   RS: 1     AQ: 0
Come on AQ, I wanna learn something!

mark your words?? ok i did gavity wont work? hhhmm

try the second liar in this thread he not only says it is possible but will work, has plans and materials and quite a cult following too, pity hes been a fucking lying sack of shit the whole time.

let's ask him to come good with his no math "will work" machine for a few bucks

lets ride this fucker into the ground,

here he is the second one

http://groups.google.com/group/magdrive/browse_thread/thread/af227943869b6355

and here is the orginal

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1995.120.html