Roll on the 20th June

[shakman]

@freddy and exx,
It looks like you guys made a horseshoe magnet with the attracting force equals the repelling force at the end. So the traveling magnet dutifully goes from the start end to the end end. It seems you need the acceleration of the attraction side and want to get rid of the stop/repulsion side. So instead of thinking 2 dimensionally think 3. As your track goes to the 1 o'clock it is countersunk deeper into the backboard. If the force is reduced 1/4 by distance, the deeper the track sinks away from the traveling magnet, the less the stopping force. So when the stop end approaches the start end the forces are not equal. The stop end is way below the force of the start end, and the cycle can restart. Exx think ramping down the gravity side of the clock face. The traveling magnet stays in the plane but the magnets under the track move away from the plane until the stopping force is very very small.

I don't have the magnets to play with for this track/traveller setup, but maybe you guys can try it.

Great minds think alike 

[gwhy!]

If you answered "yes" to these questions, think back to the original concept for a minute. The idea was to use leverage on opposing arms to overbalance the wheel by suspending a weight out on the falling side and retracting it on the rising side. If this weight is able to apply sufficient force to the arm to force a magnet out of a sticky spot at the end of the Mayernik Array and back to the point of entry, but not be too heavy (EDIT: when retracted) so as to create too much of a load to allow the action to repeat on re-entry to the Mayernik Array then you've broken the wall and created OU.

I believe this is the direction Archer is headed, although I'm not sure exactly what configuration he intends to use yet. It might be an idea for us to start playing with this idea....?

Hi shakman,
   I also think this was/is archer intention but alas he is not saying much at the mo. But I think because of all the variants and pick'n'mix designs that has been thought of it has got lost somewhere across time I for one would like to see archers design proceed as I think IMO its about the only way that the "wall" could possibly be broken.

[kude]

Hi shakman,
   I also think this was/is archer intention but alas he is not saying much at the mo. But I think because of all the variants and pick'n'mix designs that has been thought of it has got lost somewhere across time I for one would like to see archers design proceed as I think IMO its about the only way that the "wall" could possibly be broken.

I would like to see Archer's loop proceed too. Maybe Archer's loop could have a plastic track let's say starting at 3 going to 7, the entry point. The magnets on the metal track drop away from the plastic track to below the entry point. Now the entry force does not equal the exit force. I guess this could be experimented with.

[shakman]

Hi shakman,
   I also think this was/is archer intention but alas he is not saying much at the mo

That's probably not a bad thing. I think he was allowing the flame wars and aimless debates to distract him too much. I'd rather (and I'm sure he would too) that he only posted every couple of days and spent his time more productively building and testing. He can always share all the steps in between with us when he's ready to post. I imagine that it would be rather difficult setting up an experiment (which often requires some construction), filming it, uploading/sharing it, discussing it, getting in flame wars, then on to the next experiment. I'm surprised he has made as much progress as he has. Even his critics would have to agree he has done an awful lot in a short space of time. It would be much better to experiment and record as you go upload the vids in one hit, drop in on the magdrive group and answer a few q's and give some info on the experiments, then back to work. Much less f'ing around.

[ramset]

Shak chasing 85000 reads the flame wars bring the crowd [maybe not completely] Archer is inspired by this [IMO]it gets /keeps him thinking    I think it human nature to have an adversary to beat    WELL I always did best in this venue maybe thats weird   Archer has much bigger adversaries [not here] then I ever had   Chet