Roll on the 20th June

[shakman]

Umm - you didn't finish the quote, or read it correctly.  Here it is again:

Will a summary suffice or do I need to parse the entire sentence for you?

Summary:  If you don't or haven't sent me $$ - you will not get the plans (weights, sizes etc) or even a full view of the array.


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The point is what rastas point was....it goes against everything he has said from the beginning.

More importantly - who in their right mind would send a lunatic that has failed to produce $2,000 on the promise that he'll get it to work?

It has turned from a supposedly open-source project into an apparent scam for $$

Well I'm glad I haven't gone to bed just yet. The dunce is still in the class looking for an English lesson.

You moron, you are reading what you want to read and not what has been written. He clearly says that you will have to wait if you don't want to purchase an advanced set of the plans. He will show you the working wheel at the same time the advanced set of plans go out but you will not get any more info until the public release date.

It's quite simple, if you don't want to spend $2k then you will have to wait. But when he shows a working wheel, you might need to queue up for magnets. If you are doing this for yourself then that might not be a big deal. But if you plan to manufacture them it's a small investment to get in on the ground floor.

I thought most people on here were well educated. You fail to understand a simple concept. He won't show you the full array out of faith to those who purchase an advanced set of plans. He is not putting any patents on this, how dare you call him a scammer. If you personally think he's a scammer, don't send him any money. Simple. I'm sure you haven't contributed any money, you certainly haven't contributed anything of any value here.

Ask yourself this: Would a criminal actually spend the money sent to him on materials to build a wheel? Did his videos not show where the money was going? If he was a criminal would he have continued to spend money on materials and time on building his experiments and setting up videos for us to see?

Now ask yourself, if you had started a project like this and been criticised and personally attacked by a number of people would you be willing to give those people a set of plans to anything? Archer still plans to give them to you, for FREE, but you are upset because you can't have them first because you don't want to invest in the idea. If anything is corrupt here it is your morals and attitude.

shakman

PS My message timed out first time and I just read your last post. Of course his agenda has changed a little. He is a human being and he has been attacked at every turn. Even some robots would want to give you an almighty bitch slap for that.

[shakman]

I'm not a lawyer and I certainly don't know Australian laws - but soliciting and collecting funds for vaporware to a mass audience without proper licencing/documentation/contracts etc.  would probably violate several laws here in the U.S.

Any lawyers care to comment?

I missed this one in the mix. Yes, you could be prosecuted for this in Australia, if you could prove that it was vaporware. I'm sure Archer is well aware of this, and that is why he has waited until he has the proof he needs to avoid such prosecution. I just wish they could prosecute people for stupidity in the US, but then you'd have 1 million Captain Featherswords like you deliberately dropping the soap in the shower - not pretty.

[shakman]

BTW  Captain:
Nice message to ramset. Trying to appear neutral but showing your true colours from the outset:

"...
With the inaccuracies and suppositions put forth with this current incarnation of OU - I am just suggestion caution before pouring too many resources into it.
The 'whipmag' comes to mind.  Hundreds of people devoting countless hours and resources on a questionable device with little to show for it.
..."

Why on earth would someone come to a thread about a gravity wheel to tell us all not to bother?

Pull out your hook, Captain. I'm off to bed. Should give you plenty of time to think up something to try to get back at me (or at least something in the least bit sensible to say).

Hopefully by the time I wake up again Archer has already put this to bed.

shakman

[Evil Roy Slade]

I'm not a lawyer and I certainly don't know Australian laws - but soliciting and collecting funds for vaporware to a mass audience without proper licencing/documentation/contracts etc.  would probably violate several laws here in the U.S.

Any lawyers care to comment?

Yes we do have such laws.

Refer: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/fta1999117/s12.html

I don't know which state AQ is in but I do know all other states and territories have similar laws.
Unfortunately anyone 'donating' from overseas would face huge (and expensive) hurdles trying to recover their cash when the time came. The so called 'guarantee' would mean absolutely nothing. Zero. Zip.

ERS

ERS

[The Eskimo Quinn]

gee nothing like turning what i say into something else, all who donated simply get the full plans and pics first, i do say on the site dont buy it unless you are an engineering firm who wants a head start, who thought they could sit on the fence.

so you will get it free just as i said, and you really think after all the shit you gave me you should have the same rights to timing as those who supported me??

second, gifts to 70,000 are legal in this country tax free, so much for dontaions, and there was never any charity inference everyone knew "and saw" where the money went so no misinterpretation could be had nor was had. as for selling the plans, this is still a free country (well almost) and selling something you own is quite legal or did i miss some change in the law. there is no investment, that is solicitation, investment for a promise of return. for that you need a prospectus, i know i used to write them for property unit trusts.

They get what they pay for, just like ordering a bmw with leather, you pay in advance and when its ready you get it, if you dont get it, you get your money back.

So did i miss anything, or should i remove that too, so that in the event someone who has the money to get it to you sooner will be a month out, i could really fucking care less, i was a goodwill gesture of access without offending those who did do the right thing so fuck you.

for those who for the fucking hudredth time, do not listen to me, when i say something fucking works, then go off listening to queue (no offense) who says it cant be done, after he builds the worlds second loop in history taught to him by the guy who he now says is wrong.

so once again for the second last fucking time

i am loading a video of how the switch works from a foot away from the isotropis ferrite with a touch the size of a pin head turning it into a super magnet, every mix shown so you can see it is the real deal.

I have named this one after myself. it is the "Archurian Gate Key", for it opens the gates of all mag drives and shunts to give thousands of perpetual machines to the world.

I'd like to say its been fun, but fuck you.

Gate key uploading to you tube now. thank god i dont have to speak to you anymore.

oh and i think you'll find i offered anyone their money back who wanted it, i will now place it on the website, as i said i have a credit card i can link to paypal in a heart beat.

I am seriously tempted to give it all back load the video and stay offline for a month just so people can tear your fucking heads off over having to wiat