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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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shakman

Quote from: kude on July 18, 2008, 08:18:57 PM
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To me Archer's last video was murky, Can someone else, like you guys, show Archer's Key Gate in your current wheel setup and do a better job of showing exactly what he is saying. I get the principle of what he he is saying but not how he applies it. From what I can gather, as the traveller hits the track section with iso ferrite rods under it it triggers the rods from being the stop end of the track to the entry point of the track while the traveller is above the iso-ferrites. As far as I can tell from his video, I didn't see how it worked.
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Hey Kude, still waiting for my magnets. Hoping to pick some up this weekend but worked last night and too tired to drive anywhere today. Hopefully I can find somewhere to buy some tomorrow and I'll set up a demo.

Just to give you some insight though, the idea is that iso-ferrite will take on the characteristics of a magnet when in contact or in it's field, but will forget about it as soon as it's back out of the magnet's field. This is a long known fact, that is nothing new. What Archer has discovered however is that this effect can be activated remotely via a metal rod, and can be done at pin-point. These two points alone again may not be new, but his implementation of these points is ingenious and solves two major issues - the iso-ferrite can be kept out of the field of the magnet from a distance - meaning instant on/off without lag, and the amount of energy required to release the pin-point connection to the metal rod is minimal. This virtually replaces the need for an pulsing electromagnet with "solid-state" magnets.

From the video, I believe Archer plans to implement a spring-loaded track system which will perform much of the action required to get this to work. I guess we'll just have to play the waiting game for now.

As for the public spats - you are 100% correct and I have said this myself before. But you can only be publicly challenged or attacked so many times before you open a can of public whoop-ass. This is true for both sides of the argument - I also defend the right for others to defend themselves against me too. I can be a bit of a bully when I know (or at least I am pretty certain) that I'm right   ;)

shakman

shakman

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 18, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
Hi Shakman
I don't think you have been in the magnetic field for long so yes it would seam like something special to you but to me its nothing new, magnetic current has been around for years using iron wire, which I think off the top of my head is called magnetic wire if you want to buy it, don't quote me on that because it has been years since I played with magnetic current but google it and see what you get.
Thats all I'm getting into with this because its pointless pointing out the truth to some, all I will say is nothing new yet again and until I see a working wheel little videos of old concepts wont win me, I pointed out the losses of energy with the switch and as I said any energy lost with a system that don't put energy in will fail because theres no way to get that energy back.
Take Care Shakman
Graham

Fair's fair, we will agree to disagree. You are right, I am new to the magnets game. But troubleshooting and visualising are skills thoroughly bred in to me and I use them to successfully earn my crust so we both have our different strengths and we are both stubborn as mules so we will just have to let it go.

The statement I've highlighted is a little concerning to me though, considering the forum I'm currenly on.

@Kude. This was done publically as it started here and I had to let a few others know that I have agreed to disagree. I know at least one person who will jump all over this like a rash otherwise.

shakman

gwhy!

Quote from: kude on July 18, 2008, 08:18:57 PM
I wish you guys would go after each other in the private message system. Don't like AQ send him a PM. I know it futile to ask.Don't like someone else, take it to PM. Futile. It's the equivalent of taking it outside.

@exx or gwhwy or shak

To me Archer's last video was murky, Can someone else, like you guys, show Archer's Key Gate in your current wheel setup and do a better job of showing exactly what he is saying. I get the principle of what he he is saying but not how he applies it. From what I can gather, as the traveller hits the track section with iso ferrite rods under it it triggers the rods from being the stop end of the track to the entry point of the track while the traveller is above the iso-ferrites. As far as I can tell from his video, I didn't see how it worked.

Please don't let yourselves get sidetracked again.

Edison failed 3000 times before he found something that worked. So give everybody a little benefit of the doubt around here or some slack.


Cant speak for the other guys but I'm not in a position to try at the mo, I am at the moment making a test rig for testing a entire length of any type of track and measuring forces at any point within that track and also measuring the forces needed to enter and exit a track. When this is completed ( which should be soon ) I will gladly test it for you.   

Rusty_Springs

Quote from: shakman on July 18, 2008, 08:36:23 PM
Fair's fair, we will agree to disagree. You are right, I am new to the magnets game. But troubleshooting and visualising are skills thoroughly bred in to me and I use them to successfully earn my crust so we both have our different strengths and we are both stubborn as mules so we will just have to let it go.

The statement I've highlighted is a little concerning to me though, considering the forum I'm currenly on.

@Kude. This was done publically as it started here and I had to let a few others know that I have agreed to disagree. I know at least one person who will jump all over this like a rash otherwise.

shakman
Hi Shakman
I also agree to disagree, I like that mate thats the way it should be and if was like that from the get go this thread would have been more civil.
Take Care Shakman
Graham

heiwa

Quote from: exxcomm0n on July 18, 2008, 08:18:10 PM
That said you better qualify yourself as taken...

Isn't it interesting that so many on this thread are afraid of being taken, yet you recommend that I say I am?  It's an odd world.  As to your question:  Taken, certainly not.  Freely given, most definitely.  And happily so.  Don't feel too sad though, for all you know I have no teeth and a bad case of the rickets.  We are all of us just words on a page, and I will worry about unwanted advances when someone invents a way to transport humans through LAN cables.

As to the Archer Gate, I have a theoretical question.  Do you suppose that if more wires are added to the "feeder" magnet that the strength of each wire diminishes?  I will send away for some iso-ferrite, but while I wait...

And couldn't a magnet pull itself along a ferrite track then?

Thanks for any insight.

In Peace,
Jen