Roll on the 20th June

[Rusty_Springs]

I have my doubts about this ( but I am a newbee and still learning ). But I have been thinking about it real hard ( and now my head hurts  ) .  Just wish I had a large dia magnetized cylinder mag kicking around as  I already have have a fare few ferrite rods to play with, I think it would be very quick and easy to test the principle in a electric motor configuration as Rusty states.       

Hi Gwhy
I know magnetic current works and the further you want to run the magnetic flux the more powerfull magnets you need, I did try looping the magnetic wire to increase the current like they do with electric coils but to me it didn't seem to improve anything, so for distance you need bigger magnets and thicker magnetic wire and this gives you a problem of more force needed to seperate the connectors and as I have said what worries me and always did about this kind of system is the force needed to seperate and bring back together the connectors.
Take Care Gwhy
Graham

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[markh]

Hey Archer

I have been watching this thread since day one, and I have to say it's been interesting.  I think the new Archurian switch you have come up with is quite interesting.
Have you thought of just bypassing the whole smot part of your wheel design, and just use the archurian switch, located at 1 oclock on the wheel, to pull the rod up. 

I had this thought of using a magswitch at 1 oclock and somehow mechanically switch off the switch as the rod is being pulled up.  I think that magswitch takes too much energy to switch, but with your design, I can see the magnet basically being on most of the time, but as the arm extends toward one oclock, attracted to the mag, it hits something that breaks the "pin connection" thus dropping the rod, and letting it fall and rotate.  You would need a latch to keep the rod extended.   It seems like this idea is less complicated, and would require a lot less "tuning"  It's sort of the brute force approach. (BIG magnet, turn it off, arm falls)   I'm sure you're on your way to creating it the way you see your creation. I just wanted to throw in my two cents.    (The brute force approach would also work well with you fulcrum, I think)   Thanks for sticking with it.  It's been a great learning experience, and whether or not it works is irrelevant.  It's all about the journey.  (but I'm rooting for you in this corner) 

Best of luck, and peace

Mark

[shakman]

@MarkH

Thanks for posting dude. You gave me an idea!

Here's a concept for using the Gate Key activated temporarily to pull the runner out of the Mayernik Array. It's just a rough sketch, got a few other things going on at the moment so I didn't have much time to pour into it but hopefully you all get the idea.

The moving wooden bars are leveraged to give the runner more drive than it's weight would otherwise allow.

When the runner trips the wooden bar sitting just outside the rim of the wheel, it pushes the springed wooden bar that is resting on the springed magnet, pushing just the corner of the mag onto a metal bar attached to some iso ferrite which will give a sharp pull to the runner which should be enough to pull it past 12 o'clock. By the time the runner reaches the iso-ferrite, the lever has reset itself and the magnet has sprung away "de-activating" the iso-ferrite.

As usual, a picture tells a thousand words...

shakman

EDIT: I know this needs work - Mayernik array is not in it's correct position etc. Will clean up when I have time.

[proteinman]

I'm also a big fan Archer, I don't care what anybody thinks or says your a genius and you think outside the box. I reckon you will be the first to achieve a self running wheel and I wish you all the best!