Roll on the 20th June

[bullsnbears1]

You seriously everyone on this thread has an understanding of the laws of thermodynamics? 

I think most people who 'want to believe' are ignorant of the long history of failed perpetual motion devices, which is a topic I've been interested in for 20+ years.

Try reading Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds- it's available for free at http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/636

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds

Why don't you read "The Wisdom of Crowds" by James Surowiecki

From the back cover:
"In this fascinating book, New Yorker business columnist James Surowiecki explores a deceptively simple idea: Large groups of people are smarter than an elite few, no matter how brilliant- better at solving problems, fostering innovation, coming to wise decisions, even predicting the future..."

I find irony in the fact that you use wikipedia if you don't believe in the wisdom of crowds.

[therealrasta]

@Wiz

What is funny.. Science at one point thought that the earth was flat and if you traveled faster than 15 miles per hour that the pressure would not allow you to breathe.. Thank goodness science evolved past that state and I wonder how ( perhaps with new discoveries and new laws and the breaking of old laws).. And currently anti-matter takes up 95% of the known universe and we understand almost nothing about it.. So don't be sure PM is not possible.. Actually it is all around us.. Everywhere.... Damn those atoms and there PM.

[AB Hammer]

@The Eskimo Quinn

So when will your wheel be ready to go back to back against mine that runs solely off of gravity? We can hook them back to back and see which one runs backward due to the others overwhelming power. LOL Mine is only 3 foot tall.

[therealrasta]

@The Eskimo Quinn

So when will your wheel be ready to go back to back against mine that runs solely off of gravity? We can hook them back to back and see which one runs backward due to the others overwhelming power. LOL Mine is only 3 foot tall.

got a vid?

[madsen]

What do you mean? In all those months WE (as forum members) have NOT SEEN ANYTHING UNUSUAL, NOTHING WHICH WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNCONVENTIONAL. (wrt. AQ's claims)

Oh, I totally agree.  My opinion is that nothing in this thread poses any threat to conventional physics whatsoever, and that the chances of putting together a perpetual motion machine of any type are approximately zero. 

However, there have been claims made that AQ has "broken the wall" and AQ himself has said that the behavior of his apparatus defies "Newtonian" physics.  I'm just asking for specific evidence of this (from those who made these claims, of course).  What prediction of "Newtonian" physics was contradicted?  For example, does anyone believe that the total energy of the roller ever increased as it made its way around the track?  That would clearly be a violation of conservation of energy, but I haven't seen any numbers supporting this.

Of course, I'd accept a working wheel as convincing evidence for PM, but I'm not holding my breath.