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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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purepower

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on July 21, 2008, 10:33:49 PM

@Xaverius

Actually O/U already exists, nuclear reactions, fission AND fusion.  No laws of Thermodynamics are violated.


That is because the weak pricks keep changing the laws to make it look like they are always right. Newton himself said flight was not possible.

The only giants whose back are riden on, are those who dispised and rebuked newton laws.


Hmm, so pricks keep changing laws so they are always right? Kinda like how you keep changing the premise of the wheel so you never have to admit to failure. Interesting...

And what "giants" ever "rebuked" Newton? I'm curious. Who were they, what did they claim, and how it "rebuke" Newton?

Also, when did Newton make any claims to flight? I know you "never lie" so I can't wait to hear your answers.

Now back to science... Nuclear reactions are not OU/FE.

Sure, we get more energy out at the completion of the reaction than it took to initiate, but this does not mean there is more total energy in the system at the end than at the beginning.

Think of a bucket of gasoline. You drop in one tiny little lit match and get a roaring fire. This is the same principal as the initiation of a nuclear reaction, yet you don't claim this to be FE. Why?

There is stored energy in the chemical bonds between the hydrogen and carbon. Upon oxidation (or combistion), these bonds are broken, releasing energy (and far more energy needed to initiate the oxidation reaction because the hydrocarbons are unstable).

Similarly, nuclear fuels follow the same principal. In combustion, the "weak nuclear" bonds (atom to atom) are broken. In a nuclear reaction, the "strong nuclear" bonds (proton to neutron) are broken. The stringer the bond, the more energy released. Nuclear fuels are by nature unstable and try to decay (hence "radioactive"). Any small energy input to increase rate of reaction leads to greater output.

There is no FE because the energy is already there waiting to be used inside the atom itself, kinda like a battery. All we are doing is hooking up the wires to the terminals (metaphorically speaking).

Science does have a tendency to discover something new and rewrite the books. Still waiting on that "something new," AQ (and new application of existing knowledge doesn't count).


@Shake

What an asshole you are. I post, you give me shit. I don't post, you give me shit. I'm guessing you were the red-head bully back in grade school, and this is just your new playground.

I remained in the shadows not because I was (or felt) defeated, but because I had nothing to contribute with the direction this has gone. You want to talk about machines, particle or rigid body dynamics, fluid or thermodynamics, energy systems or power management, then I'll talk.

I made the mistake once of talking on a subject I am not completly comfortable with (electromagnets some 75 pages ago). "Iso ferrite" and magnetic switches are unknown waters for me, so I simply don't comment. Is that okay with you, the self-appointed bouncer?

Oh, and I did do a bit of guess-work with the hours you worked, but not about you drinking before work. Reread your quote. You say "had my share of beers" then "off for a nap before work."

I don't mean to sound arrogant here, but when the hell have you proven me wrong? You haven't (besides spelling, big fuckn deal). All you have done is provided examples that introduce new variables to the discussion that undermine the original point.

I DEFY YOU TO FIND ONE CLEAR EXAMPLE WHERE YOU DISPROVE ANY OF MY STATEMENTS BEYOND ALL DOUBT.

And spare me this "I would, but I don't want to make the boy cry" bullshit.



@Morg

BRAVO (to your post, top of page 121)


@ALL

So it is clear to all by now that AQs current version of the SOG is not the same version as promised by 20 June.

It is clear (as by AQs own words) that his track is "new" and did not exist before the 20 June?

It is clear that if it is these new discoveries and version "will" enable the machine to work, then anything existing before these discoveries (and 20th June) did not work.

It is clear that if technologies existing pre-20 June did not result in OU, the AQ lied to us saying that it did.

I hope AQ is not lying to us again.

-PurePower



therealrasta

Quote from: Bobbotov on July 22, 2008, 02:12:27 PM
In know you are kidding but I think a few medics might be in order for Archer.

That's fine as you do not need to rationalize your participation here any more than I do really. We are all here for different reasons but high on the list is the spectacle  Archer has crafted and perpetuates. This is at best performance art. Whether it is good art or bad is yet to be seen. But it is not science yet.

lol.. true.. He has turned it into a show in some ways. But it is science , even if it fails. Cause we are definitely going to learn something either way.

Bobbotov

Quote from: therealrasta on July 22, 2008, 02:16:50 PM
lol.. true.. He has turned it into a show in some ways. But it is science , even if it is fails. Cause we are definitely going to learn something either way.

And you may learn something you do not wish to.

Very few, if any people at all, advance the frontiers of science by spitting on it.

Alexioco

There are topics that are trying to find ways including my own, but this one seems to have a lot of talk but no thought...
The love of God is great and true,
A special thing for Him and you,
A perfect friend, a Father too,
Lift up your hearts for He is true.

therealrasta

Well since we are all waiting on that post from Archer stating here is my proof "vid". I might as well ask you guys where can I get some damn 1/4 inch "hard" plastic "tubing" through local means.. I live in a large city.. Any ideas? Do not want to have to special order the shit.