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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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wizardofmars

Quote from: therealrasta on July 24, 2008, 03:59:43 AM
Awesome.. thx Archer for you dedication once again.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Qf-0fgSJc

I was going to predict failure again for Archer Quinn, aka Kevin Thomas. He has been making crazy claims since 2004 according to http://www.inventored.org/caution/archer-quinn/

I didn't need to. The lame 10 minute video just posted should be evidence to anyone that Thomas hasn't brought anything new to the perpetual motion game.


It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. - Chinese proverb

exxcomm0n

@ Archer

Yup yup!

Proof of concept! Congrats on that Dude!!!

But I'm saving the bubbly until it drives a load. ;)

Could you mount the sinus wave hub on a board acting as a class 2/3 lever, mount another board or platform under it to approximate height, and put a bolt through the end of the lever board so you could get finer up/down adjustment and do the same with the outer assem. with the bolt also being threaded through fixed threads mounted statically?

That might allow for perfect adjustment to achieve 3+ turns and negate the "unseen hand" and standing in the line of sight issue.
Maybe slight out of alignment might be a good thing for the array effect?

I'm sure you're probably way past this though so I'll keep the bubbly chilling in anticipation of tomorrow (tonight).

:D

@ Bomber

I have no problems with any point of your rant, but I don't really recognize it's validity though in regards to myself and some others.

I participate, and if you don't like the way I do that, you can skip my posts but I bought my right to do so with time, effort, and testing.

I'll defend slanders against my character when unfounded or shoddily crafted.

Don't bitch when you don't bring anything to the table.
You can bitch when you contribute, but coming in after the fact with an "I'm so ashamed of you!" type post really doesn't cut much rope.

Simple, or what?

Take your own advice and skip the frequent offenders then, but your rant equals what you accuse others of in the end.

You don't like it, that's fine.
But nobody dragged you bodily to your PC screen and made you enter the URL and click on this thread.

:D

@ all

Hmmmmm.......seems Archer has moved the ramp inside the wheel as I hypothesized a few pages back (but in a much different way!).
Less moving parts always is a good thing. ;)

The sine wave arrangement of the mags might be harnessing that corona effect as the MkEs seem to be non-switched.

From the direction he seems to be going now (assumed from proof of concept design), the sine wave arrangement doesn't really have to drive a load, only compensate for wheel weight and keep it turning. From there you can test with how shallow/deep the wave can be and the effect of continuous mags forming the wave.
Add just one shifting rod to that, and you have power.  ;D

Or use that Perendev mixture (cylinder form aspect only) I proposed before and have n(1+) rollers in array track being driven by multiple rollers while only 1 is breaking the wall (if necessary) or free wheeling to array entrance.

If there are going to be shifting rods that are magnetically driven, wouldn't it make for a much deeper wheel to keep magnetic fields from interfering with each other?
Or, now that I think back to the pic on the perpetual motion page of Archer's site, wider providing more leverage for the weight shift.

Just more thoughts kids. The vid proves the concept so that's done.

How do we make it better?

I got some thoughts and have been very jealous of shak's 3D rendering ability, so I'm going to try to a render in Qcad of them to see if I can make the descriptions a little more clear.

:D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

dirt diggler

Quote from: wizardofmars on July 24, 2008, 11:18:05 AM
I was going to predict failure again for Archer Quinn, aka Kevin Thomas. He has been making crazy claims since 2004 according to http://www.inventored.org/caution/archer-quinn/

I didn't need to. The lame 10 minute video just posted should be evidence to anyone that Thomas hasn't brought anything new to the perpetual motion game.




Martian man,

If you are going to show up late, at least read from the begining.
Archer already explained the confusion with Mr. Thomas.
I believe it was his neighbour, Archer was using his computer, and someone read into it too much.

No, really, I love beating my head against this wall.......

gwhy!

Quote from: kitefreak on July 24, 2008, 09:32:10 AM
@ gwhy

Sorry gwhy, maybe we're talking at cross purposes here... I'm looking for evidence of a magnetice arrangement that is NOT a Mayernick array, which is capable of carrying a load up a hill, over the top and breaking free of the wall on the down side. Are you saying there are lots of examples of this on this thread? I saw Archer do it with the Mayernick array, but I haven't seen it done (by him or anyone else) with a different type of magnetic arrangement.

That's what I'm wondering - is the Mayernick type arrangement a NEW idea and does it have significant extra (shunting) capabilities above and beyond other arrangements of magnets?

I'm thinking it does and it has, but if I'm wrong about that I'd be most grateful if you can post a link to a video showing similar results being achieved with a different magnetic arrangement.






Hi kitefreak,
    Sorry I miss understood. I think one of Clanzer's video's of the ( dare I say it in this thread...(tri-gate setup)). Shows a roller climbing a ramp. Please PM me and I will see what I can find for you.

purepower

@All

Well, I'll give it to him. That is way more impressive than anything I've seen before and much more than I expected out of him. However, Im not yet willing to call it PM, and still a ways from FE. Maybe after a few I the bugs are worked out, but as long as it still stops itself there is more work to be done.

Kudos, AQ! (Not quite ready for the "congratulation" though)

Now the questions are:

- Can the bugs be fixed so it will run continuously?
- Does this break any of Newton's three laws?
- Does this break the first law of thermo, conservation of energy?
- Does this change our understanding of magnetism as a conservative force?

My answers:
Hopefully.
No.
No.
Yes, and I had my doubts on this one after seeing the trigate.

Keep up the good work, Id like to see her finished...

-PurePower