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@Exx
Sorry, my fault (language issue).. 
"I misappropriate English terms alla time, you should know that by now.. " Wink

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Wrt. Steorn - i can confirm that those guys and the teams who they cooperate with are really seriously into magnetics...

Even in Steorn's public forum, there's literally tens of thousands of posts, dedicated to magnetics and permanent magnet motors.
If someone wants to learn, there's a sticky thread at the top of the page, where OverConfident and many others gathered a lot of useful links and sources about the latest views on magnetics...

Cheers!

[ThothTheSecond]

While we wait... some levity

Perpetual Motion solved, and such a simple solution too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTAJp5KyRIY&NR=1

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BTW .. even if you showed us a working wheel that self perpetuates .. before it could be said that it was OU .. tests would have to confirm that the magnets in the array were not weakening as a result of spinning the wheel.
i will write more about this aspect later .. but now i have to go to work ..

Heres what i wanted to mention but didn't have time a bit earlier ..

i noticed this rather odd thing about the array and i didn't mention it before because i didn't want to distract AQ  from his task. i also regret having ever mentioned isotropic ferrite in my video and posts as it seemed to send AQ off on a new tangent where he then believed it was the answer for the wheel . I did try to tell him later when i saw that .. that ISO/ferrite was not the answer but he just ignored me .. which is ok too .. i am nobody.
ISO ferrite is not very magnetic BTW .. ( someone else's post )  on it's own a nice chunk of it can barely pick up a small pin.. and it cannot support it's own weight to stick to a pice of steel .. Magnets like it though and happily stick to it.

Heres what i wanted to say ..
ON my wheel after i made video two .. i left the magnetic array as it was for a couple of days untouched.

When i returned a few days later and started to play with it ...
i noticed the rotor could no longer climb the array and go over the top !
In fact the rotor had not even made it over the top . stopping at say the 1 or 1:30 position.. ( don't forget my rotors climb from 6 oclock was counter clockwise..

i then rechecked my own video to make sure and see how far it had climbed before and sure as hell there it was .. proof
The array had changed strength .. weakened . over the space of a few days .. and I nor anyone else had touched my test wheel or changed anything about it ..so what happened ? ?

i spun the rotor .. checked it wasn't rubbing up against something .. spun it fast ..  jiggled it .. still couldn't climb the array it had done so easily a few days before . .
big mystery to me !!

Seems to me that possibly the magnets weakened just sitting there in the array config doing nothing .. . The rows are .. don't forget in repulsion mode just sitting in the array .. maybe this weakens the mags in each row even if they are doing no work .. 

This is why i said .. that even if we get a working PM wheel . .
the next step to claiming it's OU .. would be checking the mags after running it a bit to verify they are not weakening ..

And heres the next mystery .. when i did notice the weakened array i was getting ready to test AQ's isoferrite mag switch and one of the things i did to get ready to do that was make my big magnet wand.

Before i modified the array to start doing the tests .. i tried degaussing the array by using my wand in very close proximity. .i spun the wheel a few times and passed my wand close to the rotor and the array as it was spinning ..   

After i then tried getting the rotor to make the climb again and you guessed it ..
Now it worked again just like before ! ! 

i didn't say anything before as i didn't want to distract AQ from his task or come off as just injecting more negativity ..
But it WAS VERY strange ..

a mystery to me for sure !!! 

[purepower]

@Exx

Even when I play nice, have been getting along with shaky, complimenting AQs work, and even speaking civally with AQ himself, you have to come in and start playing the ahole card. It's okay, I'll remain calm and just dismiss it as side effects from the lack of herb.

Anyways, I clearly remember saying "...just an anomaly in magnetism." Then you follow with something along the lines of "who wants to follow me into uncharted waters so generously called 'an anomaly.'"

It can be logically inferred that you were sarcastically reffering to my term as generous. I then cleared things up, followed by you being an ass and saying my input was not solicited.

I'm a naysayer, you tell me to fuck off. I play nice and compliment his work, you tell me to fuck off.

Okay, I get it. You don't like me. That has become clear to me and everyone on this thread. There is no more need for you to post anymore PP mud.

Now back to the real issues at hand...

I do remember making both of those statements.

One I adamentally stand by, the other I do not.

I have built many ramps, pulleys, machines and have done the energy calculations for them, never accounting for "banked" energy. Funny thing is my calculations mirror the performance of the device.

How many machines have you built? Did you do the energy calcs for them? Did your figures match your results? I thought not...

I have not done any such work with magnetism. I have never claimed to be an expert in magnetics. I have said many times there are things I (along with the rest of the scientific community) do not understand or misunderstand about magnetics. From what I gather, magnetic fields have been considerred to produce conservative forces. From what I have seen with the trigate (and now possibly AQs device), I find myself questioning that assumption.

Good day.


@ Mr M

As previously stated, I am no magnetics expert. So to answer your question, allow me to us an analogy.

Two meteors are traveling through space at the same speed.

One is off in the abyss, free from any gravitational field to disrupt it's movement.

The other travels near earth, gets pulled in, and crash lands.

It had kinetic energy before, as well as potential energy, but now it has none. Where did it all go?

Impact. Upon collision, it looses energy to heat, deformation, and vibration (sound), to name a few.

To pull that meteor back off of earth and send it back on it's way would take as much energy as it lost on collision, just like pulling the steel ball off the magnet and rolling it again.

-PurePower

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