Roll on the 20th June

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Yeah, Birmingham, Alabama, same as Butch LaFonte.

Hmm..
Have you ever visited mr. LaFonte? Are you familiar with his work? What do you think?

I'm only asking because I'd like to know if he achieved anything wrt. OU/FE.

As long as I remember (at least for a last few years), there was a lot of posts & "public announcements" coming from him, like "Things are going very well! We're just about to deliver, any time now!"

It seems he's a clever and a nice person too, but....

[g4macdad]

I think Exx and Dirt and the like, are the smart ones here.  I have contemplated attacking Archer on occasion for his pure BS, but I think that may be the motivation here. The only smart thing WE as humans can do, is to remain open and curious. This IS creation!

If AQ is bogus then his purpose is most likely the same as Newman's. To make people who pursue OU/FE look like morons. To discourage experimentation.

If one spends his life trying to achieve OU/FE and fails, how is the result any different than if he never tried?

If he would happen to succeed, then he is a true genius and a saint!

[RadiantLarry]

LOL at EX-CON,

I give no free rides, I expect none man.

Yeah right, roll on the 20th right? 131 pages of CRAP. Long ride for nuthin, except tooting your own horn.

I don't take myself too seriously until someone that takes themselves WAY too seriously starts calling me wasteful of my time and talent, and then disregards any thing I've put up as proof (of time, talent, or the lack thereof Grin ) because theirs is better.

Yah right, the ONLY thing that can happen to this is someone comes along with a BETTER IDEA. Like a real one? Your ego is enormous, for the tiny amount of worthless ideas and garbage that you have tried to show here and failed. The fight between you and archer showed what a puss you both are. Hilarious!
You have nothing to stand on, except anger.
But really, the BEST part, is where you get caught on a forum YOU chose to be on, and cant save face, and get bashed until you both leave. Thats the best part, and we thank you for that! Clown!

[g4macdad]

LOL at EX-CON,Yeah right, roll on the 20th right? 131 pages of CRAP. Long ride for nuthin, except tooting your own horn.
Yah right, the ONLY thing that can happen to this is someone comes along with a BETTER IDEA. Like a real one? Your ego is enormous, for the tiny amount of worthless ideas and garbage that you have tried to show here and failed. The fight between you and archer showed what a puss you both are. Hilarious!
You have nothing to stand on, except anger.
But really, the BEST part, is where you get caught on a forum YOU chose to be on, and cant save face, and get bashed until you both leave. Thats the best part, and we thank you for that! Clown!

I think Exx and Dirt and the like, are the smart ones here.  I have contemplated attacking Archer on occasion for his pure BS, but I think that may be the motivation here. The only smart thing WE as humans can do, is to remain open and curious. This IS creation!

If AQ is bogus then his purpose is most likely the same as Newman's. To make people who pursue OU/FE look like morons. To discourage experimentation.

If one spends his life trying to achieve OU/FE and fails, how is the result any different than if he never tried?

If he would happen to succeed, then he is a true genius and a saint!

[exxcomm0n]

Exx - I'm guessing you will respond with a long winded reply (taking yourself too seriously again my friend)
to my small comment so I'm constructing this post in notepad for the moment.

Always a good idea (notepad) considering the "user hatiberiln has exceeded max queries....." behavior that has reared it's ugly head a time or 2 recently (I posted to Stephan about this as I have run into it before and we'll see if my suggestion was useful to him.)

If I'm long winded (or seem to be), it's because that stuff is easy and if you over explain something it's hard (or sad and laughable) for someone  to say they don't understand.
But you're right, the last post could have been 1/2 to 1/3 as long easily and I blame being tired (with perhaps a few other quantifiers ) for not proof reading it and trimming.

I was just pointing out he has contributed/built/posted good stuff on this forum (not neccesarily this THREAD)
that - per your parameters - would give his opinion greater 'weight'
To compare him to (your implied inference) PurePower is like comparing a 2nd grader to a tenured Harvard physics professor!
(well - at least you got the PP part right LOL )

Sorry, I haven't seen it yet.
What I HAVE seen were his posts here, and to the mondaresk gravity patent thread  (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5141.msg115965.html#msg115965) yesterday, and the content thereof.
Considering that amount of research I did into his content, what I had seen is "Mine is better than yours" and it could very well be, but that type of approach and flavor don't make me wanna find out too much.

On the money challenge angle, I think that anyone truly serious about such a thing should pool their money with the others making such claims, put it in a bonded "trust" that anyone can check the validity of and have any applicants be judged by a challenge furnished judge, one of their (applicant) own choosing, and a 3rd not associated with either.

Might make for more interest and serious consideration of such "prizes" if it was known that the money was just sitting there waiting for someone who could prove their theory.


If he has some things to teach me, I'm all for it! But my interest is not gonna be spurred by him calling me stupid.

And yes, TK can come across as rude and brash - but that seems to be norm on THIS thread 
I can't believe you posted that last vid in rebuttal to TK.
Did you even watch his before you posted that?
(I see now you haven't)
You should at least have posted THIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0M_1-5KJIg

It was synchronicity that I was ready to post that one already when he asked.

It wasn't rebuttal (at least not in aim) but proof that I wanted to try different things (the vid you cite above wouldn't be what it is if I hadn't said to myself, "I wonder if I can get it to that top slope" and doing so in a "I'll try anything since the way I thought it would work, didn't" and having the arrays grab the roller and have it achieve the aim I was trying for with clockwise movement that DIDN'T work.

Duuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! But if it works, it works.
It was to prove that I know I'm stupid, but I'm working on that part and trying.

You should concentrate on improving/tweaking/modifying/examining/studying this.
Have you tried modifying it in the various ways I've mentioned several times?
Would like to see/hear about it...
What else?  Have you kicked it, yelled at, had the dog piss on it? (implying trying crazy things too!)

Hell yes! That's what the latest vid was about! Trying different array forms to see their effect and trying to find out why this form is better than that one, etc. for the wall issue.
<See above for "pissing on it", etc.>

It IS playing!

But that's the best and easiest way I know how to learn.

As to your suggestions, they're kinda waiting on the new mag shipment (120 1/4" X 1" cylinder mags) as I thought it'd be a better "control" experiment to have the MkE arrays all formed from the same mag type rather than just what I had on hand and forced into use.
Also, the 3D build aspect of some of them presents new build characteristics that I'm just not equipped to realize at this time (Yet! I has to think on how I can do it ghetto-style!).

On that note, could you please PM me with a summery of them as I may have missed some of your suggestions. Not from lack of consideration, but from human nature.

Checking in on forum.... yep there it is...
He was just saying you might follow more of a 'scientific process' in your 'science experiments'.
Although he does pull the 'run down tests' out way to often.

You looked at how my wheel vids are classified on the Tube?
Entertainment, not science, as science to this point in time does not recognize the validity of the concept and cites 100's of years of fascination and failure associated with it as to why it'll always consider it to be a pseudo science at best.

I'll give science that and post my stuff as entertainment until It does revolutions by itself AND drives a load!

I'll post my 'spreiments (experiments) with that Tube classified end in mind too.

But I do - so way off-base - take a chill pill my friend!

I'm sure I took my swipes at you back when you were staunchly entrenched on the "naysayers" bench, but you have seen some things that may have changed your attitude and since then I have enjoyed and welcomed your content (even though it seems to be challenging my attitude of late) as you are willing to re-evaluate your paradigms in light of "proofs".

You learn, and that's a very big deal. That you do it from the object of your prior ridicule points to GREAT learning and content potential!

This is why my consideration of your posts has leap frogged exponentially.

Unless he's got an Australian accent and thinks Newton is a dumbass! LOL
(and preaches poor no calculations and builds - well - maybe will know in another month or 2 or..)

I don't think I've ever been "rah rah" about AQ since the 1st couple of pages of this thread, only that someone should be allowed to try or fail since then.
When he's failed or been wrong, I've said it.

That history and build direction seem to be taking suggestions from this thread and incorporating them into "his" design is pretty self evident too, But if he realizes how to do that and make it beneficial to the goal of the build physically, I'll overlook "slights" of not saying "Thanks for the idea!" and the overbearing manner in which he sometimes posts the "proofs" or talks about them.


All things said and done, keep doing what you're doing (It makes you look like a much nicer individual than me at the very least) as I can be wrong, but I might not realize it until someone calls me out about it.

Kosher?