Roll on the 20th June

[purepower]

Thanks for the link---this is an important point, but the disagreement is over how best to classify magnetic force.  "Everyone" agrees that you cannot use magnetism to get free energy of course.

Right, you may be able to get useful energy out of magnets (maybe), bit this is not "free energy" or "OU" as the magnets are our fuel. Even with that perspective, it isn't "free" energy (like wind, solar) because we have to pay buttloads for em to begin with and to replace.

Would aqs success be nifty or neat? Sure. Bit is it the answer to the worlds energy problems? Hell no.




And I disagree with this "aq taking us to the fair" analogy.

It's more like he says he's taking us to the fair, makes us wait in the car while he runs into the bank and grocery store, and then ends up taking us to the dentist!



-PurePower

[shakman]

Alright, someone bring me up to speed here please.

The "gate key" does activate the ferrite block. (or does it just make a ferrite mag stronger?)

In order to make this useful in breaking a wall on an array, wouldn't it also have to DE-activate it.

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@bullsnbears1

Hey mate, in the demo the neo's jump to the ferrite. Once in contact the ferrite stays 'active'.

In a working wheel, i believe the moving neos would not come in direct contact with the ferrite and the key would be de-activated before the moving neos reach the ferrite. The moving neos should then pass the ferrite at speed.

Archer was purely demonstrating the concept as clearly as possible so he kept it as simple as possible.

shakman

[exxcomm0n]

Earlier somebody said that it's a real _itch getting the ferrite out of a pc power supply & it wasn't worth it for what they got.
Didn't X00013 say he got his from an old generator winding? I'm definitely needing an answer to sourcing this quick. (since I was apparently side tracked by the "soft ferrite" rumors - so sourcing that may have been a waste of time, I'll know soon.)
edit: as to any actual ideas - I'm too far behind everyone to contribute yet. But the autocad & camera are itching to contribute ASAP.

Shit, you're gonna make me actually DO something!

<Grumbles while getting the PS, pliers, and a paneling nail.>

Shit, it's mold on type instead of snap on/off type.

<gets a knife and cuts off the ferrite molding and 1 end of the adapter cord, then slips off the cylindrical ferrite. About 5 min. all told.>

Shit, it's fragile!

<After testing to see if it's attracted to a magnet alone {it is} and see if the ferrite is statically mounted if it can attract another mag from proximity influence of the ferrite being exited by a neo {this probably made the ferrite chip, but it does and acts as a an extension of the exciting end for both attraction and repulsion polarities.}>

Shit, it works!

I'll try for a janky web cam derived Tube vid......maybe........

I'm tired now.

[kude]

Nice quote.  That pretty much hits the nail on the head, and refutes AQ's claim that he has achieved something outside of conventional physics.   

The physicist is saying there are losses in using conservative forces. Magnetism sometime is and sometimes is not a conservative force and this physicist beleives it is whereas the premise of the track with a key is that it is not.

In the videos we have seen some tracks exhibit a wall or the conservative side showing up, and some don't. Isn't the key a solution one that attempts to overcome the conservative nature of the magnets in the track. I'm sure there are reasons why the wall is not so prominent in some other travellers and tracks.

[therealrasta]

@Exx

Yeah I was the one thats said it was a lot of trouble for what you get.. And hell yeah it is fragile.. I shattered one.. And then proceeded to tear out another one.. And did..

However,I found my extremely weak Fridge mag seemed to worked better. (the ones that you pin up shit to the fridge with)

When putting it to use in the wheel I think it actually works better if you have a small repel force going on first.. Then when the switch hits it, it reverses poles to match the neo on the switch which is aligned for attraction to the wheel mags. Then when the switch moves past the point of attraction per say.. The small repel force adds to movement of the wheel.. Just some thoughts.  Might even be able to move the wheel with just switches and no mag track if this holds true.

EDIT -- of course this is just conjecture at this moment.. Waiting on my circle cutter to arrive so I can cut my plastic properly..