Roll on the 20th June

[gwhy!]

I understand your point.. But look at it this way.. The laswall on mayernick track is at lets say 2 to 2:30 and the ferrite is at 2:45 to 3. Right as the neo on the wheel approaches the wall on the mayernick track. The ferrite is activated by a floating wand that does not make contact with the ferrite.. This attraction from the wheel to the ferrite moves the wand at the sametime which in turn breaks the attraction and the wheel mag falls back into the mayernick array facilitated by gravity and momentum in later rotations.

OK I think this is how I imagined the setup would be, thanks but as I said as regards the wand I need to do some tests, What would be really usefull at this point is if Archer can confirm the setup that you described just because now I see an additional problem with it, a drawing from Archer would be perfect. Its not worth me saying anything about the other problem just in case I got the wrong end of the stick. 

[The Eskimo Quinn]

Firstly, the newtonian remarks, relate to mindset, all newtonians have fixed beliefs that all has been discovered and that the laws of thermodynamics are set, anyone who belives the laws of thermodynmaics is forced to be newtonian, for it is based on his work. Hence my continued use of his name in any field that questions thermodynmaics.

as to captain hook, good questions but you seem to have gone off track somewhere, there is only one array for trhe track, one free entry point and one wall, the ferrite replaces the last setion of track/array and there is no wall, the arm is not pulled into any field outside the arm simply sits on the wheel and is truned by the magnet on the wheell running aorund the array to the wall, it had no input or loss of its own, it simply bridges a field gap outside of the wheel that powers a pice of steel that runs back under to the track array.

the arm has no wall of its own, so there is no loss, the wheel is counter weighted on the opposing side for the weight equal to the arm so there is no additional imbalance other than the drive magnet which is always the case.

I assure you i could not tell when the rod was in the field or was not. In any event if there was some slight field force the video dismisses this easily if the poower to move the obect was not greater than the field pull or wall it would have ripped the rod from my hand as equally as it ripped up the magnets and track, and you can see no extra strain on my fnigers or slight flex toward the contact point at all with me trying to hold it back or any such thing, so any field effect is so imeasurable that it hardly compares to the huge gain by the same action. even if there had been some huge pull at the switch it would only have to be less than the gain for it to work. as there was none detectable at all i would say we are in the thousands of times the power of any present field effects.

ovens hot have to go

[Rusty_Springs]

Now see this is where we are going to disagree again, I was looking at it from a different perspective : The neo was being pulled to the ferrite and had to be held back from smashing into it and when it was connected to the ferrite it had to be forcefully removed. Now I know your gonna say but thats what the wand is for but....   oh never mind I don't know if I can be bothered to open another can of worms. I need to do some more testing for myself first..   

Hi Gwhy
Your totally right, it looks like people are not taking into acount force needed to switch the switch on and off, I don't care if the ferrite is touching or not there is still an attraction there between the ferrite and the rod, the only time theres no attraction between the two is when the magnetic current is not extended to the ferrite, that maybe ok comming in but it will pull you back going out so it needs to be over come.
Then you have the case of the wand moving the roller before the ferrite is switched on and you see that in Archers video as he moves the wand up to the ferrite to switch it on you can see the neo roller moving which say to me the wands magnetic field is touching the neo roller and if this is happening on a roller as its comming in towards the ferrite what effect would that have to the roller before it comes in.
Take Care Gwhy
Graham

[therealrasta]

OK I think this is how I imagined the setup would be, thanks but as I said as regards the wand I need to do some tests, What would be really usefull at this point is if Archer can confirm the setup that you described just because now I see an additional problem with it, a drawing from Archer would be perfect. Its not worth me saying anything about the other problem just in case I got the wrong end of the stick. 

Not saying that is how archer is planning on doing it.. Thats just how I invision it.


@X00013

I don't have a way to record right now.. I have to either purchase a video recorder or a web cam to record with.. Really would like to avoid the cost of a video recorder..

[gwhy!]

@Rasta , post ur stuff man, i need 2 b entertained

@ exx , good vid

@ archer,    i'm going to try to do some "relativity" tests'  to confirm either partry's beliefs. ( hoopy shit house test ofcourse )

@gwhy, its not that easy to test in/out force without special equipment

@Graham, do you have test results (push/pull) with specialized equipement u could post in any config?

I have got sort of a setup to do some tests but its not calibrated so mainly using it for relativity tests. But I know what you mean.