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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Fred Flintstone

QuoteFor those of you waiting for something special.

the picture below is a continous mayernik flat trak, whenevr the roller come to an intersetion it has a fresh full new acceleration and changes direction, the orignal track and end wall are taken past and out of the loop. I stake my reputation this will run.


@Archer

Just wanted to say that this will not work. Somebody please build it so we can move on. Archer, I am disappointed that you really believe this will work. As the magnet travels, it slows down.

I am very curious how many "turns" (on to alternate tracks) the magnet will go before stopping. I think 3 max. Also, just for the record, within 5 seconds of watching the video I thought about making a circle exactly like Archer's drawing and within another 5 seconds I decided that it would not work.

Archer, you definitely have alot of great ideas. This is just not one of them. Since you have put your reputation on this idea, what happens if it doesn't work?  What does that mean?

Regards,
Freddy

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Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on August 07, 2008, 10:22:28 PM
On the same topic but different angle i looked at the gauss gun effect the other day, but from a different angle, i thought the only thing is the striker needs to drop off or roll around to the front after hitting, if the entry to the gun was slightly down hill it could roll around to the front after, ready for the moving ball to strike again. how? iso ferrite gauss gun centre, hadnt worked out how to operate it as a switching array other than have two running all the time, and one switching when the other hits.

K.....1st the switching array.........

When I was a kid my bro had the COOLEST semi-automatic rubber band gun made out of plastic that had 1 (well 2, if you count the spring) moving part.
The gun was hollow, but very thin and had a trigger assembly that was spring loaded to give you trigger feel so when you squeezed it actuated (actually was, since it was all 1 piece inside the hollow body) a ratcheted end that held the multiple rubber bands.

These things are so cool when you're 5, cause you don't understand that all the rubber bands (it was 7 shot, I think...) have to be exactly the same or it won't work right.

Anyway, you use rubber bands to ............................. (HA! Had you going there! ;) )

Why not have the fired roller trip a lever on the way down (assuming vertical loop) to move the BBs in array to the end of the mag instead of the beginning?
Just some sort of saw tooth thing coming from underneath that lifts it (BB) over the top of the mag and to the other end.

There are probably better designs, like the mag sinks into the track and an arm moves the BB forward to "reload" the array.
Hmmmmm...you could do that on an uphill slope and make sure the moved BB has definite affinity to the mag it's lifted over, but that's probably not a problem w/ mag attraction.

2nd flight of fancy............

Imagine if you had it in a tube with spring loaded ends....or just looped the tube ends.
A machine built to beat itself to death if the velocity amplification holds true. ;D   

The issue with the gauss gun track is that after a fire it is perfectly set up to fire the OPPOSITE way of that 1st fire.

That's why I thought of the duo looped ends.

If you set the distance right on the ends on the (clear) tubing, you could keep it from destroying itself and make a kick ass entrance lobby kinetic sculpture in the process.

Now THAT is a niche market! Could make a whole new facet of sculpting.

This one is too weird.......I gotta try it (conceptual gadfly that I am).

If'n I use the resulting velocity from a fire, I bet it could get some significant height, and the BB can do a lot on it's way down powered by gravity.

Hell.......make it like a Pachinko machine. ;D

I wonner (wonder) if iron passing through a coil produces electricity?
Then maybe you could throttle the BBs decent with load demand induced by the tube being coil wrapped so it re-impacts the array the  opposite way at a sane speed and just happens to make current @ the same time?

I REALLY need an answer to the above question!

I'm looking to see if you can generate that way, but I found this cool link on the way:

http://wiki.4hv.org/index.php/Coil_gun   (The Super Gauss gun)

Ya get an inkling that it's the recreational part of the evening ?

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Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on August 07, 2008, 10:22:28 PM
Just a thought after all anything on a track can sit on the back of a wheel, or drive the back of one.

let me rephrase that - it would have to be isso ferrite with a soft iron centre, otherwise it would get smashed to pieces, it could even have a rubber impact sleeve between them and still work.

(My missus is running late so I have had some extra play time)

This does outline a real concern.

For this type of device, we need a new different type of spring!

or.........

What happens if the BB is stopped just short (and I mean JUST short!) of impact?


NEW TOYS!!!!!!

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Mr. M

Quote from: GeorgeRudd on August 07, 2008, 06:39:54 PM
Attached to your Windose virus incubator are you?

I use Windows and Linux and almost 100% of the companies I deal with use some form of MS operating system. Tell me why I should change to a Mac and I'll tell you why you are wrong.

Quote from: GeorgeRudd on August 07, 2008, 06:39:54 PM
I can completely isolate them from the internet and potential viruses.

The fact you think that any software is 100% bulletproof proves to me that you know nothing.  ;)

queue

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on August 07, 2008, 09:33:39 PM
i believe it even has a name in physics, it is called chain reaction. Just as in nuclear physics, the input power is less than the ouput power, or overunity.

Let me help you out here Quinn. i'm surprised that you don't remember what happened when you tried to build a closed a loop with the mayernik array after you first discovered it .. not everyone learns from experience i guess .. anyway
after you closed the loop with the mayernik array and then tried out your roller it wouldn't move anymore in the closed loop ..
right ?

Well ..
the same thing will happen with this idea ..
(which again you have copied from someone else while seeking a solution to your own wheel ) 

Once you complete a closed loop the roller(rotor) won't move anymore.
Building the array, as you add each new turn segment the wall will move towards the new end of the line.. 

i could be wrong .. AND .. i would actually be ecstatically happy to be wrong and see the thing work ..
but unlike you, i actually learned something from my hundreds of hours of experimenting and trying to get your wheel ideas working..

i think you need to learn quite a lot more about magnets and/or gravity
before you will discover the secret to making perpetual motion work using either force or maybe you'll just stumble upon someone else s work that just needs your big brain to figure things out.

Happy hunting
Queue

OU-812

@Queue  Stop being such an Oil Man.  @AQ is leading us down the path to free energy one step at a time.  He has to go slowly, piece by piece so us dumb monkeys can get it.

Plus don't worry, he gave his g'tee the MArray loop will work or his name won't be Archer Quinn.  I guess we'll have to call him δ (or the inventor formerly known as Archer Quinn)  :D