Roll on the 20th June

[exxcomm0n]

@ Xav

Bring the info man!
Anything to @ least get 25% energy experimentation content going again.

What EXACTLY is Ru Paul's platform?

@ g4

Don't know and not interested as I see the glorification of a gay person for their cross dressing tendencies to be not that interesting.
What you query is your business.

The government is dysfunctional and needs to be changed? DUH

Would you mind explaining to me how the election of the democratic party will be any better than any other party, when they have had approx. 50% of the time in office over the last 50 - 75 years? (you can find presidential political affiliation here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidents_by_political_affiliation )

We need a realistic plan and Obama in office is a small step in the right direction.

True in the way that it says the USA is not happy with the performance of the Rep. party over the last 4 years, but it will still be a small step and has 4 years for "the other side of the fence" to look greener again.

What if we got rid of the fence?

As far as the election goes, I'm more interested in hiring someone that will show up for work (since a political election is like hiring someone for a job).
Let's see how some of the names bandied about here do in that particular case.

Barack Obama missed 306 (24%) of 1287 votes  since Jan 6, 2005. (a span of 3 yrs.)

John McCain missed 738 (18%) of 4104 votes  since Feb 4, 1993. (a span of 15 yrs.)

Ronald Paul missed 782 (10%) of 7627 votes  since Jan 7, 1997 (a span of 11 yrs.)

[Note these time spans are a bit misleading as some contestants did not have consecutive office holding terms. Look @ the amount of votes these findings are a percentage of.
Do a bit of research here:

http://www.govtrack.us/

to see if the votes that WERE cast were in line with the platform that elected that official to that office for that term.]

I put more credence in watching what a man does and seeing how it relates to what he said he was going to do rather than taking his words at face value.
I've been doing it with politics ever since I learned that as an American citizen I was still denied the right to know the results of the commission formed to investigate Kennedy's assassination.
(The Warren Commission)

Ashamedly, it took me until this thread to realize that I have to start employing that view in an entirely universal manner.

IF THERE IS ANY ANALOGY THAT THIS THREAD CAN REALLY HAVE TO POLITICS, IT'S THAT IT PAYS TO WATCH WHAT PEOPLE DO AND HAVE DONE VERSUS WHAT THEY HAVE SAID THEY ARE GOING TO DO OR HAVE DONE.

Once the lobbyists have been defeated, it will be a lot easier to elect a more radical leader like Ron Paul is pretending to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmxB4efwJec

We don't have time for incremental policy shifts.
Government and law are founded on this idea of precedence, and the longer the patriot act and other political actions against the citizens are in effect, the more precedence it has and the harder it is to defeat and dissolve.

That Haliburton is war profiteering right now is hardly surprising.

According to history, Indians didn't create scalping, as it originated back in the 11th century in England ( http://www.essortment.com/all/historyscalpin_rdrp.htm [pop-ups]) and continued in the new country ( http://hawthorneinsalem.org/ScholarsForum/MMD2263.html ).

What was stampeding a herd of buffalo to harvest maybe 5% of those killed in a gov't sanctioned action to deplete a mainstay of the native american diet?
( http://www.essortment.com/all/bisonhistory_rmjg.htm [pop-ups again]

Wasn't there some Bush family money bankrolling Hitler during WWII?
( http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar )

The civil war (and many other incidents found here: http://www.purewatergazette.net/greatestscandals.htm )
showing that corruption and catering to big business and special interest in this country is anything but new.

Seems like we have a pretty good history of allowing war profiteering, but very poor oversight in regards to keeping it from happening.

[Xaverius]

@ Xav

Bring the info man!
Anything to @ least get 25% energy experimentation content going again.

Hi Exxcomm, sorry for the late reply, this site was down last night.  Currently, like I said I'm working with ElectroMagnetism.  It is possible to energize a coil of wire through a high permeabilty core to obtain more potentional enegy than the amount of energy required to energize the coil.  The key to this is obtaining the high permeability material, which is extremely hard to find!!! 

The permeabilty of air/vacuum/space is u0=4 x pi x 10^-7
The permeabilty of ordinary iron/steel is ur=50 x u0.

The magnetic field strength of an electromagnet is related by the length of the core, number of turns of wire, and the amperage of current flowing through the wire.  These factors combined with the ur of the material provide the magnetic flux density of the electromagnet which determines the amount of magnetic force available for attraction/repulsion.

Permabilties of magnetic shielding, electrical steel, pure iron, nickel-cobalt, mu-metal are extremely large, 1000+ x u0.  At first I used magnetic shielding in sheet form, I cut it into strips and laminated them together to form a rectangular prism.  After winding the coil around it, it provided no magnetic force whatsoever.  Very disappointing.  I received a quote from ScientificAlloys.net but they charge $250 for a 1 foot by 2 inch square prism of electrical steel.  It is next to impossible to find a supplier of magnetic materials who will sell in small quantities.  Very frustrating!!  If you are a manufacturer, wholesaler, broker they will be glad to supply you but of course you would be purchasing large amounts.

I FINALLY located some ferrite rods, 1 inch diamter x 7 inches long for about 30 dollars.  These rods have a permeabilty of about 2000 x u0, I ordered one day before yesterday and the salesman said the order should be filled in 2-4 weeks.  I'm not sure how well these ferrite rods will work but I know they are supposed to have very little power loss when magnetized, which ordinary iron/steel does not.
This is very important for a motor or generator.

Another source could be used transformers or inductors but I'm not sure where to salvage any.  Also most power supplies and magnetic equipment do not use cores that are prisms or cylinders which is what I need for my project.

The idea is to wind the core with wire, anchor it horizontally on a bracket, perpendicular to the rim of a wheel.  The rim of the wheel would be spaced with 1 inch square neodymium magnets, the electromagnet would be switched on as the neodymium magnets approached and switched off as they passed.  The rim of the wheel would be friction bound to the shaft of a small generator.  The generator output is 8 volts, 1 ampere with 7 ohms internal resistance.

Vital Statistics are:

H=magnetic field strength

[Xaverius]

.....continued....

B=magnetic flux density
H x ur= B
I=amperes
N=number of turns
A=area
F=force in newtons
u0=4 x pi x 10^-7
ur=2000 x (4 x pi x 10^-7)
E=energy
v=velocity
P=power

H=N x I divided by length=Ampere-turns/meter
N=31
I-1(from the generator)
length=.1538 m
H=31 x 1 divided by .1538=200
B=200(H) x mr(.002513)=.5 tesla  This is the maximum magnetic flux density of this ferrite

F=B^2 x A/2u0=.25 x.0005147/.000002513=50N
50N x distance=E  distance=.02564m, the width of the neodymium magnets
E=1.3 Joules

The rotor has a mass of approximately 1 kg.  With an energy of 1.3 Joules the velocity of the rotor is approximately 1.62 m/s.

F of 50N x v of 1.62 m/s=approximately 80watts for a gain of 10:1, 8 watts generator input, 80 watts motor output.  Of course you have to account for the fact the motor is not energized the entire time during a rotational cycle, there are losses due to air gaps, friction, heat, fringing, etc.

These figures may seem complex, but really they are not.  If anyone has any questions about this please ask.  Also, if anyone has any ideas or resources about where to obtain materials please let me know.  Exxcomm, purepower or anyone else mechanically or electrically inclined please provide input, feedback or questions if you have a mind too.  Rod Clark out of Ohio, also has similar designs that he has made progress with, he has videos on Youtube.  I have personal mailed him but received no response.  I'll send his website in the next post.

Xaverius

[Xaverius]

@ Exxcomm, PurePower and all.....

Rod Clark's site is http://rod45103.tripod.com

[exxcomm0n]

@ Xav

Mathematical differentials are not my forte dude, but I've given it a look.

You'll have to give me some time though as I'll have to process the info you've given as well as that from his site (the popups are really bad on a tripod site) so it'll take me a while to build the fortitude necessary to fully investigate the ideas.

I will, it'll just take me longer than most.

@ all

I'm rather surprised that my response to g4 has not accrued more responses, but then again it's hard to debate the factuality of historically recorded content, eh?

If you think "major party" candidates are going to save the US financial future, you're right!

Just don't expect them to be doing it for the american citizen instead of multinational businesses  as voting track records will tell no matter what they say, it is not their highest priority.

Comments, rebuttals, and opposing insights welcome.

On the device side of things, I'm still of a mind that there's something in there, somewhere.
I'm having an idea using solenoid tubes, the Mondrasek flipper switch, and Mke arrays.
But I still have to experiment to see if there is anything to them.

The issue I've always had with the wheel is centrifugal force (although I was willing to give Archer the benefit of the doubt that he had addressed this issue) in the way that weight (so far) has always behaved the same when effected with velocity.

I have a few other mental flights of fancy to puzzle out that might make that a moot point (this is why I'm such a big fan of the dirt devil).

Stay tuned....same bat time, same bat channel.

BTW......whatever happened to batman?