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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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maw2432

I see the way you get from the "wall" at the end of your loop is by positioning the magnets farther away with ever decreasing magnetic strength ... have you ever considered using less and less magnetic force by using smaller or magnets with less magnetic strength?  .... would this not be the same effect?   If so please advise.   

Bill

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: maw2432 on July 06, 2011, 06:50:20 PM
I see the way you get from the "wall" at the end of your loop is by positioning the magnets farther away with ever decreasing magnetic strength ... have you ever considered using less and less magnetic force by using smaller or magnets with less magnetic strength?  .... would this not be the same effect?   If so please advise.   

Bill

it doesn't matter, the magnetic field will always act as a hill, sure, you can get over the hill maybe once(maybe) but the kinetic energy will balance itself out at the point of least resistance. everything seeks the point of least resistance, even you. except in cases that you may want to climb the K-2 and or Mt. Everest for the shear fun of it.

this is the wall that is before you. when you finally get over that mountain there will be another one after it and so forth.

Jerry 8)

TinselKoala

Is it the 20th of June already?

Archer Quinn. I remember you and the whole story of your last little sojourn here.  And I suggest that anyone new to you should do a little historical research on you and your silly claims and your earlier adventures on this forum.

You've got the balls of a red kangaroo, I'll say that much for you.

Take your best design and give it a spin. Record how far it spins. Then take all the magnets off and replace them with dummies of equal weight but not magnetic or magnetized. Give it the same spin as before, record how far it spins.
Publish your results. Let your "work" speak for itself. I dare you. Again.

AB Hammer

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 06, 2011, 07:39:38 PM
it doesn't matter, the magnetic field will always act as a hill, sure, you can get over the hill maybe once(maybe) but the kinetic energy will balance itself out at the point of least resistance. everything seeks the point of least resistance, even you. except in cases that you may want to climb the K-2 and or Mt. Everest for the shear fun of it.

this is the wall that is before you. when you finally get over that mountain there will be another one after it and so forth.

Jerry 8)

Jerry

The funniest thing about the wall is everyone tries to break through it. Like the guy who runs into a wall over and over they do finally break through. but at what cost? The best method is to reduce the walls effect or even eliminate it. Then the cost is very low. Archer is breaking by adding weights but then, what cost? This is what has to be researched for a strong action will create heat. What is the cost? As a kid back in 1974 I built a rough spinning magnet wheel. They were cheep iron refrigerator magnets. It ran for a day and a half in a jerking action due each wall (as we call it today) 2 pushing magnets to every wall. The cheep magnets did not have the same power as they did before afterwords. It took 3 to hold a paper on the refrigerator when they use to only take one. My guess today is they worked like batteries and were very forgiving for magnets for I have not been able to repeat that wheel as it was with better magnets. The stronger the magnet the stronger the wall. Is there a way to get past the wall? Archer show a way, but is there better ways? Yes IMO, just get your thinking caps on and learn what others have done and go the next step.

Alan
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

exxcomm0n

Yeesh.

It's YEARS after the proposed (and now it seems indefinitely postponed) "release" of proof and there is yet to be built a successful SOG, let alone Egyptian Fulcrum or Mayernik array, self powered machine.
(The use of SOG©, Egyptian Fulcrum®, and Mayernik array® used without permission of the patent holder.  :P )

The simple fact remains that a SOG was supposedly already built and proven to not only power itself but supply excess energy, but has never been seen working.
Also, the fact that there has been no replication from the original manufacturer to prove that the concepts used to build it are (to paraphrase) "...ideas so easy and universal that me shelia grasped them in 3 minutes", seem to call the original reports into question.

This latest video from Archer features 6+ minutes of political diatribe, 2 minutes of "this is soooo easy", 50-ish seconds of build measurements, and 12 seconds of the theory's proof of concept (6:30 to 6:37 [look @ 6:37 CAREFULLY] and 7:12 to 7:17) out of a nearly 10 minute video.
Seems a bit disparate to me.

I mean, for a concept that is supposed to hold a widely accepted theory of physics to ridicule, wouldn't a better expenditure of video be 6+ minutes of proof of concept, 2 minutes of build measurements, 50-ish seconds of "this is soooo easy", and 12 seconds of political diatribe?

Right now I'd almost accept that in lieu of a working machine.....almost.

But the results shown in the video frame @ 6:37 seem to clearly show that the rollers exit from the array deviates about 20-30 degrees from the path of the array.
This seems to pose problems for a self running Mayernik machine. Could this be why there are so few runs?

I have respect for Smoky as he's building towards the end of a working wheel and finding that questions about design that were asked MUCH earlier in this thread have credence (shaft torsion, etc.). Things that were asked and ignored.

Archer, this is a plain and simple request for a video of a working self powering machine based on any of your proposed concepts, not just pieces of one that should prove to "any fool" that it will work.
Please show _1_ WORKING self powered machine.
If it's "soooo easy", you should be able to knock one off over the weekend.

Do that and you can spout all the political propaganda you want.

Until then, STFU!

Or.....@ least post ACTUAL MACHINE BUILD CONTENT here during times when this thread isn't being revived by someone else, as this will make you look less like a prostitute for attention.

Let's see that indomitable Aussie will power and know-how actually make a device that will achieve the ends that you've claimed for years but have yet to substantiate.  ;D

P.S. The  look would almost be dead on for "V" if you get the broad brimmed hat and shave a few kilos.
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.