Roll on the 20th June

[CLaNZeR]

Should be interesting and something to look forward to

http://www.surphzup.com/index.html

http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2008/04/free-energy-on-june-20th-fe-truth-world.html


Cheers

Sean.

[hartiberlin]

Hmm,
on
http://www.surphzup.com/gpage3.html
he says:

The premise of the wheel is simple in the object, and that is to get the wheel to turn itself. For those who wish to understand the basic principle of a gravity wheel; take the cage cover off your pedestal fan (or any vertical fan) and place/tape a coin of any size to the outside edge of one of the blades, holding it just past the top at the 0ne o?clock position, let it go. the fan will turn simply because there is more weight on one side than the other. What is notable and also important is momentum. the blade with the coin will always travel well past the centre base of the fan, before rolling back. So we have gravity that makes the turn possible with any other energy, and we have momentum created due to the loss of impact normally given to a falling object.

what we are building is a machine that has mastered the art of moving the weight roughly from the 7 o?clock position back up to the one o?clock position so that the wheel is always having to let the heavier side fall. speed of moving the object is crucial so continuous motion is maintained, and weight is also key to the amount of power derived from the machine. The impossible or previously impossible task was to lift an object using less power than is gained by the falling object. Key also to this was what even DaVinci himself missed, and that was that it takes less energy to move an object A) a shorter distance and B) on a diagonal slope. It takes far greater thrust to launch a rocket to 10,000 feet than to get an aircraft to the same height, and we are not talking percentage amounts we are talking hundreds of time the power or less power.

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How can he get the blade with the coin back from 7 o clock to 1 o?clock ?

Did somebody understand this ?

Has this anything to do with a airplane going into a parabel for free fall speed tests ?

[CLaNZeR]

How can he get the blade with the coin back from 7 o clock to 1 o?clock ?

Did somebody understand this ?

Has this anything to do with a airplane going into a parabel for free fall speed tests ?

This is the component he will not release till last in his build project.

I am tempted to start this, but I hope it does not turn out like the Pyramid Project, where everyone went off welding up frames and now are stuck with Metal Pyramids everywhere  , inlcuding ME hehe

Also he states in his original design that no extra power was needed to get past this stage of the revolution, yet in the new bigger version 10% of the power produced will be used.

Be nice if this one is genuine for a change.

I stay open minded as usual and looking forward to more information.

[oouthere]

Gravity wheels can't work.  The only one I remember reading about that did was built by a clock maker in the 1800's and he destroyed it after the buyer wanted to look inside.  Another scam, he just did not want to be killed for tricking people.

Rich

[mikestocks2006]

Thanks for the links. Not enough info on the gravity device yet, so not much to comment

But I just finished reading his Thermal Accelerator provisional patent, and it appears there is a flaw in the out put energy balance.

Yes it is true that the exit temperature would rise but, it will rise at the cost of reduced air flow. The fan can only ?suck in? 10 litters per second at the plane of its blades. The fan doesn?t care where the air/fluid comes from. It can only move 10 liters/sec

With the ?venture? type loop attached, some of the outlet air gets re-circulated back , before the fan blade?s plane entrance.

So the fun still pushes 10 litters/sec at the entrance, but only 9lit/sec are getting out, the other 1 is re-circulated back.

To make this very simple to understand.

Take a fluid that has a specific heat capacity of 1 (J/(g*k)
Start at 0 ref degrees and elevate it to 50 deg, basically looking for 50 deg dif

Either you take 6 grams from 0 to 50 or 5 grams from 0 to 60, it?s the same energy out.

Now I?ve used the above example to match his, since he mentions air (Cp=1.0035 Jg^(-1)K^(-1)
He mentions airflow at the inlet, but did not provide air flow measurements at the outlet.
He mentions 20% increase (60/50) output but he only notes the temperature rise from 50 deg to 60 deg, without including the mass flow rate factor at the outlet.
The heat energy deferential per unit time, delivered at the outlet is m*Cp*DeltaT
Where m is mass flow per unit time, Cp is specific heat and DeltaT is the temp differential achieved.

Anyway, unless something is not understood properly, the claim, as far as increased energy out from the outlet only, doesn?t seem to be valid or at least is incomplete according to the example he has provided.

The new gravity set up maybe interesting to analyze/build if it shows promise though.

Thanks