Roll on the 20th June

[ramset]

Archer didn't start this thread  why not just let this evolve   don't like it change the channel   whats the hyper ventilating all about?   some imaginary reputation ? this is a public forum !! I think its great no censorship fresh ideas  take it or leave it    don't try and reverse imagine it[not engineer] then pee on it because you think you figured it out and its not what he said     so what I and others want to build it   no gun to your head  watch us make idiots of our selves    whats new  [maybe you'll have a nice laugh brother][maybe not]   Chet

[The Eskimo Quinn]

As we get nearer the date, i will ask each of those who are contributing good and bad to email me, at which point we will simply start a thread under a less than interesting title to finish it, that should get rid of  the build up of rocket thrusted satellite mechanics that will inevitably grow.

Ok to further illustrate why i need understanding not reverse engineering, 90 percent of everything you think you know you are programmed to believe, not by some evil plot, but by the pure nature of evolution, we can not all have done everything, so we take the word of the people who have, this is programming. to say man landed on the moon is programming, they may have they may not have, i was not there so i do not know this to be fact, and therein lies our greatest downfall, trying to unlearn what we have been taught using skills we have learnt from trial and some that we have simply been told, and trying to work out what is genuine fact.

knowing your microwave works because you use it is fact, knowing why it works because you build them in a factory, does not make you a genius, it makes you a factory worker with an insight. working out why it works is for people who can have an input to change, and go on in their lives to do great things. in several years from now the world will no longer need free energy as their hope, so what will you build? you need to understand adaptation and variations, especially for mankind in general, they find one good thing and never change it. ever notice women?s fashions changing? ever notice those filthy collars on men?s shirts? very creative are men?s fashion designers 200 years and we can't get rid of them. 100 years and we have been unable to get rid of oil, let us not spend 200 years listening to the sound of this wheel or be caught by it's limitations.

Not much good for space travel??? no good in high inertia environments? so other variations will need adaptation.

so for the guys who have put in so much work to date, you are thinking tooo electrical, go back to the magnets, pulling over great distance is not optional, magnetic fields are quite small, and where a field is huge enough to reach the bottom of an arm, you missed a basic in your theory, it would spread in all directions including the generator itself and the axel.

also where a device uses total electricity, equality of power production usually follows as you keep pointing out to each other, but any invention where one half of the power is self provided with no use of electricity there is a gain. and electromagnet pulling an object will use all the power the object can generate quite true, there can be no over unity there. but where one half of the field is not provided by the electricity then things are different, if one is a permanent magnet it requires no power for half of the effect, and all your calculations of required energy go out the door. Slow down a little you are doing great.

[neptune]

@Ramset. Totally agree with your last post. I am not a rocket engineer, just a washing machine engineer. So why has no one else noticed that the biggest satelite orbiting earth, which has been there quite long time ,definitely has no boosters, rocket or otherwise. My memory is not as good as it used to be, but I think this satelite was called the "Moon".

[exxcomm0n]

@ Chet

Sorry if I offended. It was an idea, and perhaps wrong. I thought we were allowed to day dream as he hinted another speculator was closest to his idea.

I DO want it to work! It'll change a lot of things radically if it proves out.
But I want to try to visualize it before it's laid in my lap, as I see that as great training to realize an opportunity when it appears.

Archer has my full support and will be given benefit of the doubt until his deadline is met and failure to produce the advertised results happen to be the outcome, and even then I'll at least listen to what he has to say.

I have to admit that thinking about the concept and making the illustration was some of the most fun I've had in a while.

[helmut]

Archer didn't start this thread  why not just let this evolve   don't like it change the channel   whats the hyper ventilating all about?   some imaginary reputation ? this is a public forum !! I think its great no censorship fresh ideas  take it or leave it    don't try and reverse imagine it[not engineer] then pee on it because you think you figured it out and its not what he said     so what I and others want to build it   no gun to your head  watch us make idiots of our selves    whats new  [maybe you'll have a nice laugh brother][maybe not]   Chet

One can get the impression,that the debunkers are all ready in action.

A shame for this forum.

Instead of develop an idea to find a way to move the weight strait from 7 to 1 they just attac the inventor
that the solution is not presentet on a silver table.
In my own vision i see the wheel as open dual system,where the weights  are taken from the wheel,after they
left their Impact as moment on the wheel.At about 7 o?clock the weights are shifted to a seperat section.
The Section becomes weightless because of a counterweight action.So the actual movement to pass from 7 to 1
needs a distance not more than the diameter of the weight.
Archer gave more than one hint.But it seems that nobody is able or willing to do a search by them selve.
I am shure,that my own idea is different from Archers idea,but it does not matter.Our Goal schould be
a working wheel to heal the world .We search for solutions and not for problems.
This Formula : Epot= m x g x h  might be good to do the math for a falling stone, but not to be used in general of a
overbalanced wheel.

helmut