Roll on the 20th June

[oak]

Hi Smoky.  Sorry, but I can't follow your analysis.  I'm not suggesting it's incorrect.  But I just don't have the training in math, physics, & electricity to follow it.  (I also don't have the training to follow what you say about the other device -- the Archer's loop.)

Having said that, my thought is that you may be taking the satallite analogy too literally.  I think what Archer may be hinting at is getting some acceleration from maybe 1 o'clock to 3 o'clock, which will then give the weight a head start into the gravity boost.

If my wild guess (2 posts up) about the setup is correct, perhaps the electromagnet (which is fixed at a position outside the reach of the tube end) is located at somewhere around 2 or 3 o'clock, but it pulses when the tube end has only just reached 1 o'clock.  So the pull on the near magnets in the tube is both upward and sharply to the right, giving the magnets an added acceleration going into the gravity pull.

What Archer is saying about this device (this modified gravity wheel) is not totally implausible to me.  I believe there's far more to momentum and gravity that is not understood, than is understood.  (See, for example, the Aspden effect:  http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/Le30/le30.html -- which perhaps has something to do with all this.)

Anyway, as you say, maybe -- just maybe -- Archer's device actually works.

[dhirschfelder]

@ All,

Archer kindly sent a better resolution of the photo - I have uploaded to a temporary directory for the time being

http://www.nannerb.com/overunity/DSCF0768.jpg

thanks Archer

DH

[dirt diggler]

now, I'm not sure but Archer does seem to make lots of reference to aircraft-which happens to be my specialty. is it possible that he is generating some lift with an airfoil of some kind, that is helping to lift the weight, or possibly an upside down airfoil to create more weight on the heavy side?  just a thought, but I am a newbie so it might not mean much!!

[hartiberlin]

@ All,

Archer kindly sent a better resolution of the photo - I have uploaded to a temporary directory for the time being

http://www.nannerb.com/overunity/DSCF0768.jpg

thanks Archer

DH

Okay, does not look like magnets.
Probably some aluminium discs or iron discs..
Also I can see some cords running down parallel with the tubes.

Seems Archer pulls these discs with the cords up and down at the right moments ?

[The Eskimo Quinn]

morning oak, Dave, and everyone else.

I did warn you the photo would drive you crazy, and none of you got it. and i taught you a valuable lesson, how easily something that appears to be what you are expecting is nothing like you imagine at all, i will not tell you, but they are not even remotely close to the component you think they are,

if you wish an insight into my thought process, it is best described as a logic computer, i do not see what you see, i see logic patterns, and they always override what i have been taught or told. It used to drive my previous employer nuts. He, one of the finest electrical engineers I?ve have known to exist, professionally trained, and 40 years of experience, would show me a device or drawing and out of the blue i would say it won't work, i don't know why, but something is wrong or something is missing, and i can't even do electrical load calculations!!?? but sure as your life within a few minutes sometimes a few days i would just instantly know what it was. The new place where i work is gas fitting and welding, there was a problem with a burner the other day, all of the gas fitters and long term workers were watching the test, I said when i picked it up, no flash marks, or cold burns from leaks, it's not a leak, and in the hundreds of 1.5mm  holes in the drill pattern, that is random not straight lines, i spotted a missing hole, that stopped the flame jump and allowed the gas to build up and ignite,

I don't do calculations, i place objects on fulcrums to ascertain balance ratios, then find out what the weight and measurement are after i get it to work. I don't see where smoke get his figures from in logic at all. think about this. i will have to go large to illustrate the point

500 ton arms each end/50 of length. now imagine the power this turning even slowly produces??? (think hydro power) the amount of weight to move the wheel one side over the other is nowhere near even one ton. the power generated by a wheel is from the total revolving weight not the added load x some gravity equation, the size of the turbine is still the size of the turbine, and when rotated produces a set amount of power per rpm, the same a a wind turbine. This is what smokey and i must say the rest of you also keep missing with some silly 5 kgs falling x gravity equals x bullshit. i can assure you a one ton bull sitting on top of you does not weigh 30 kgs the moment a child sits on its back.

This is where Newton?s teachings screw everything up and logic goes out the door. try really basic logic, if you have i cup full of helium, will it lift 1ton of weight? absolutely not says smokey by using Newton?s calculations as they do not include environment, i say it will. Think logic and simple.

the first person to write how and why will get the first copy of the machine when complete.