Roll on the 20th June

[The Eskimo Quinn]

I must say the answers on this page are now 95 percent of the wheel, good to see you get the photo was the weights, and yes they are what is moved. i will give you another tip you have all missed for free this will really make you smile.

but first, you can now see why i have fed the information as i have, so you can work it out yourself should anything happen to me or the site (thought that this site was toast yesterday, just overload i guess)

ok i have sent a letter to oak to post.

but here is todays tip that you will really love, why doe the machine keeping spinning even before the weight is fired? because ther are more than 1 rod and at least tow ends are always over the balance point hence the reason for three set of power rods not 1 or 4.

whilst you are struggling with slight friction variations you forget an entire falling load is already past 12 oclcock when the next is waiting for firing, or is there even more than that?

as for arcs of magnets around the base and metal rods, no, these things i contemplated originally, and did not work on the small machine.

anyway, you now see this was no game, and you are teaching yourselves, not being programmed to believe what sounds like a good story, what you have worked out you did without me "telling you this is how it is" So when someone tells you that i am full of shit you can tell them, that archer simply gave you a tool box, and you can work out truth for yourself thanx.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
With what I just posted theres no need to move a weight up and down you just have to tilt the rotor arm on every half turn or let it go 2 turns before you tilt it.
The hinge was a example of how it could work with next to no energy but I would think it would be on something like a gyroscope.
Ofcause I could be totally wrong but like you said Sean it is fun trying to work it out weather it works or not, I'm having fun and I'm one thats a sceptic and thought smoky2 was right in most things he said.
Take Care All
Graham

[exxcomm0n]

Hmmmmmm.........

I thought about the wheel being tilted @ 45 degrees and that lessening the work the arm had to do.
Instead of the wheel being at 90 degrees and the whole time fighting full gravity for the full distance with the weight, having the wheel tilted and having the weight stay the same, but the amount of energy to move it being less because it's moving like an airplane instead of a rocket.
Same distance, same mass, but using gravity to create lift like a airplane wing instead of trying to completely oppose it like a rocket engine.

(Bad analogy, there is no "lift", just less opposition to gravity.)

But from the build he's doing on his page, the axle will hold the wheel 90 degrees from the platform the stand rests on.

I think this is part of the deal, but not the whole ball of wax.

And while I'm breaking the the vow of silence I invoked yesterday.......

Archer was talking about how this might not work the best in space.
From what I've been told about space (not having had the chance to play in that atmosphere yet) the only way a machine like this could work outside of a solar system is if the ship were under heavy thrust equaling 1 gravity, and then only for the time it was able to keep steady 1G thrust in free fall or away from gravitational attraction..

...and that's only if the "floor" is a plane 90 degrees opposite the thrust, the atmosphere is earth standard pressure, ad infinitum.

I wonder if the space version would be a rod with springs on either end and a ratcheting weight in the middle.
At take-off the weight slides back on the ratchet and compresses the spring until it (the weight)  overcomes inertia.
That compressed spring is energy. It's not free, it came from thrust, but it's still not "lost" to the thrust.
It's "reclaimed".
Deceleration does the same thing.

If the springs were "loose" it would create even more energy because ac/de-celleration mass is spring + weight, instead of just weight.

Archer, yes...I fudged on my proposal, but you didn't comment one way or the other about it so I figured I hadn't been the one to torque you off the most.
I waited for Christmas to open my presents, but it didn't keep me from looking at their size, weight, and listening to what theyt sounded like when shook.

And thinking about things like this is just........fun!

P.S. I think aerodynamics might have a say in this too.

[CLaNZeR]

but here is todays tip that you will really love, why doe the machine keeping spinning even before the weight is fired? because ther are more than 1 rod and at least tow ends are always over the balance point hence the reason for three set of power rods not 1 or 4.

whilst you are struggling with slight friction variations you forget an entire falling load is already past 12 oclcock when the next is waiting for firing, or is there even more than that?

Yep agree here that there is no need to think in 90, 180 etc degree firing as just on the basic principle of the clock we are talking 30 degree's and 6 of those increments can utilise gravity.

Will respect your pace Archer, but wish 20th June would speed up

Cheers

Sean.

[ramset]

This room is chock full of talent    from all over the world     what an absolute privilege to see you guy's work and to learn   Arcer this is to good to be true [just this part [teaching and learning]  THANKS!!!!!   CHET