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Overunity Machines Forum



new? magnet/gravity motor

Started by 2b, April 28, 2008, 06:26:49 PM

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2b

i have had this idea for quite a while, and though i haven't read every post made by everyone, i have read 100's of related posts but never saw this idea, and was wondering if anyone else already knows the 'problems' of such a device.  see the attached JPG.

basically, the propeller or wheel spins clockwise.  as shown, at the top of the image, the outer static magnet will pull the cylindrical magnet up the spoke somewhat, while at the same time, at the bottom of the image, the outer static magnet will push the cylindrical magnet up the spoke somewhat; keeping the right side of the propeller/wheel over-weighted.  stainless steel can be used to shield magnetic fields when like poles are coming at each other, or when opposite poles are leaving each other; and gravity adds energy to the right-side over-weighted propeller/wheel, and the lower outside magnet boosts the magnet on the spoke inwards and upwards.

it seems to me that if everything was arranged properly, and any necessary shielding was used properly, the 'magnetic bessler wheel' should work, because there are more forces acting to make the propeller/wheel spin clockwise than the total number of forces that are in opposition.

i don't have the material at this time to try it, but if i did, i would, and i will when i can - but i thought i'd share this in case anyone does have the materials.  just a good chop-stick, a nail, and 2 cylindrical magnets, and 2 bar magnets.


2b

Work = (Force x Distance)
Work = (Mass x Acceleration x Distance)

what work is being done to spin CW?
what work is being done to spin CCW?

gravity does work downward on both the right side and left side equally if the center-of-gravity of the spoke is on the axle.  if the center-of-gravity is on the left side, the wheel will spin CCW; and if the center-of-gravity is on the right side, the wheel will spin CW.  the goal is to unbalance the work done by gravity on each side of the axle by using magnets and shielding as both anti-gravity devices and center-of-gravity shifters; limiting the work done by gravity on the left side, and increasing the work done by gravity on the right side.

people say it is very possible to spin a horizontal disc almost 360 degrees using only permanent magnets, and then they hit a sticky-spot.

one way of looking at this is: it should be possible use the additional work of gravity, applied in a consistent and unbalanced fashion, on a vertical propellor to acquire the work necessary to overcome the sticky-spot.

another way of looking at it is: using the work of magnets and gravity, applied in a consistent and unbalanced fashion, should be able to overcome the frictional forces that stop a propellor from turning endlessly.

1. the use of the repelling force of the lower-left static magnet to decrease the work done by gravity on the left side.

2. the use of the repelling force of the lower-left static magnet to decrease the work done by gravity left side by shifting the center-of-gravity from the left to the right side of the axle.

2b

SHIELDING
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magnetic shielding must be a magnetic material so that the magnetic fields get trapped in the material.  if you take a sheet of steel, you will notice magnets will stick to each side regardless of their polarity.  but if the shielding is thin enough, and the magnetic fields strong enough, there should be a balance where similar poles on each side don't repel OR attract because enough of the magnetic field is getting thru the shield to prevent the shield from acting like a magnetic material.

using shielding, it is possible to create highly directional magnetic fields which can do work in very specific directions, and not other directions.


non-magnetic materials act like air - they don't stop magnetic fields whatsoever.

helmut

@2b
Thanks for sharing
Good idea

helmut

sm0ky2

you've sold me on the idea....  i don't see any 'obvious' problems here, and im willing to give it a try.
seeing as we've hit a "dead end" on the Tri-Force experiments, and there's not really anything new to work on at the moment....

so i guess this will be my new project.

i've made some "adjustments" to the design, to fit my own ideas on the matter. see .jpg below

grey lines are just to mark my center lines...  green is supposed to represent the magnetic shielding.
i havent given much thought yet to the "sliding mechanism" of the rotor magnets, if that proves to be necessary.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.