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David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device

Started by sterlinga, April 30, 2008, 10:56:29 PM

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Dbowling

For those of you following this, here is how I started. I  discharged the batteries I am going to charge by attaching them to a common automobile headlight and running them down until the bulb no longer even glows. Since I don't know enough about capacitors to use them to discharge, this is as good as I can get. Then charge them up with my device until I read about 13.1 volts on my volt meter. Then attach a DC inverter to them. I attach a Kill-A-Watt meter (brand name) to the inverter and plug in a 100 watt light bulb. I run it  until the inverter beeps at me and tells me there is not enough current to keep the bulb running. I realize there will actually be electricity in the batteries at this point, but I really don't care. All I care about is I started as close to zero as I can get, and I will measure the kilowatt output (which seems to be about  .33 per charge and runs the light bulb for three hours) I charged the batteries three times yesterday and last night and ran them down. On the fourth time it wouldn't work. I believe this is because I have been pulling the batteries out of the charge circuit as soon as they read 13.1 volts instead of waiting for the system to shut itself down when everything is charged. Or else the whole thing is a dud. I will keep trying.

If my calculations are correct, there are about 1260 watts of power in the batteries I am using (4 18 Ah batteries and one 33 AH battery) and I only accounted for 990 watts used up by the light bulb, so not very impressive so far. The rest of the power could easily have been used up by the motor, which ran for nine hours during the testing. So maybe the thing doesn't work and I used up all the watts available. But that's what testing is all about. Anyway, I will keep posting what I discover, so if it ever comes out right, you will see the data here. I think the errors are mine rather than a failure of the system, but only time will tell as I continue testing.

As for the question about whether or not I could charge a partially charged battery. I think the batteries I am putting into my system now have a partial charge even after running the 100 watt light bulb for three hours. But I haven't measured them to see.

NerzhDishual

Hi guys,

May I suggest you to consult this page:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/962-use-tesla-switch.html

And notably the Peter Lindemann 's post about the Tesla Switch. (08-23-2007)

Quote
..........the original circuit was developed by Ronald Brandt. The 1983 date of the
Brandt circuit pre-dates John's work on this system. Ron's circuits used mechanical
contacters as switches, but apparently worked quite well, as long as the contacters
lasted.
John [Bedini] was the first to adapt this circuit to solid-state switching,
using the SG 1524 dual flip-flop functions and bipolar transistors as the switches.
So, exactly why this is called the Tesla Switch is beyond me.

John has told me that his "cigar box" unit ran a small electric motor for more than 6
months without discharging the batteries AT ALL
.
He also told me that the original working model
was smashed by a "guest" in his shop who was infuriated by its
operation, while John was out of the room. At this point, he decided
not to rebuild it. I know John personally, and have no reason to doubt this report.

Obviously, the voltage drops in the transistors and diodes present a CONSTANT loss
during operation, not to mention the energy dissipated at the load.
Therefore, the system defies all standard explanations and energy use equations.
The batteries apparently stay charged and run loads simultaneously for a reason that is not conventional.
.......................................

Emphasis are mine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, as Reported by Sterling D. Allan

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:David_Bowling's_Continuous_Charging_Device

QuoteThe system does not involve resisters, diodes, rectifiers, transistors. It's
basically just batteries, a motor, wires, and switches
.

@Dbowling :
So, IMHO, the design of your Continuous Charging Device is perhaps genuine (and
certainly easier to built) but should use some "Tesla Switch" principle.
And I bet is  does work... :)

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@ DBowling
If it doesn't work it is better to find out before you quit your job and sell your house, rather than afterwards. I still hope you will get it working, but your data does not look good at this time. These kinds of ups and downs are part of doing research.

Dbowling

Just an update...I have gone back to charging two batteries at a time, as many times as possible, and if that doesn't work, will go back to one. The problem with only charging one is that when I try to measure how many Kwh it puts out running a 100 watt light bulb, it doesn't put out much and will take me forever to get the data to prove anything. But that may be my only option. I have charged two batteries in parallel twice so far today, and am running my light bulb now to discharge them the second time. I will post again tomorrow night with the results. Lots of folks have e-mailed me to say this won't work, and lots with words of encouragement. I guess only time will tell. If it turns out to be a dud I will be really glad I didn't waste everyone's time and money by posting my circuit here.

zerotensor

The digital meter probably has a choke or ferrite bead to suppress transients.  This might explain why the system wouldn't run with the digital meter in place, but did with the analog one.

I like Stefan's theory.  Seems right-on to me.

David:  If you get this thing running consistently, it should be a snap to wire up a switchboard to automatically flip the batteries around, all the while running a load.  If you could run a decent load for a very long time, say 100x as long as you could with the batteries alone, that should convince even the most dyed-in-the-wool skeptic.