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Overunity Machines Forum



Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex

Started by Alexioco, May 14, 2008, 10:31:22 AM

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Alexioco

Quote from: AB Hammer on May 15, 2008, 12:10:35 PM
Hay Alex

There are many things that can be used as weights. A cut up bar of soap, butter knives from the kitchen, if you have a fishing box you have lead fishing weights. Heck! I once show some people how to do leather tooling with rocks and sticks that I just picked up from the ground.

you will not beleive what i have just found out about my wheel, you just wont belive this.

when I move a lever out at the bottom its takes about 5 times more effort than pushing it in at the top, I can move the lever in at the bottom with a piece of paper holding it with one hand, at the top you have to push quite hard, meaning a heavy weight can lift a light weight, i will soon post a video of this, my wheel has overunity power...

Im off to college now for music, im not quite sure how i have achieved this so if you can find out by the pictures, that would be great, wont be too long, cya
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rlortie

Alex,

Waiting for weights, making wheels of paper and cardboard, using bags of sand for weights, etc! 

Come and man! is your resources, "hands on skill" and innovation really that limited? Sorry but I find your "YouTube" presentation lacking!

Weights, in increments of ounces can be found at at any department store in the sporting section called fishing sinkers. Need something heavier, head for the exercise section and pick up some barbell disks. I use 2-1/2 and 5 pounders.  I have over a hundred pounds worth. Locate your nearest metal and fabricator dealer, these usually operate a recycle yard. where you can by gears, axles, sprockets, bearings and what ever your innovation can utilize. You then purchase it by the pound!

Nuts, bolts, all-thread, small bearings, pulleys, aviation cable, etc can be found at any Ace Hardware store or its equivalent.  I often go to the above describe places, they will ask "can I help you?" I say no! I am simply browsing until what I can utilized finds me.   

Cut your wheels or disks from MDF (Medium Density Fiberboard)  select a thickness from 3/8" to 3/4" thick, The larger the disk or amount of weight calls for thicker discs. Industrial grade MDF comes in 48 X 97"  sizes, you can cut two 48" disks from them which you cannot do with a standard 4 x 8' sheet. My 70" wheel is made of laminated !/2" material for a disk thickness of 1"...

IMO you will never subjectively prove anything playing with inappropriate and unsubstantial construction material. You have already stated that "it turned a couple of turns before it fell apart. Build yourself or trust some one else to build you a test stand and wheel. I recommend do less than 3' in diameter. Something large enough that you can readily get your hands on and in. Use at least a 7/8" axle and appropriate pillow or flange bearings.  I prefer Flange as I believe they are more stable and aesthetic looking to the eye.

You can use such a test bed and wheel over and over until the disks begin to look like Limburger cheese, then simply replace the disks. I have three such test beds for different applications, one is made from an old clothes dryer giving me an open face with no axle impediment (split axle) .  the other is simply a rectangular box that will hold up to a 3' wheel supported by pillow bearings. This unit is used when "Lay axles" ( Aka jack shafts)  are required for sprockets, chain and or gearing.   

Rule # 1:   Don't take the chance of missing the possible attributes of a design, simply because you did not build it of  craftsman quality and material capable of meeting the structural need.

Now you are learning why I fabricate for those with viable designs, but do not have the skills, resources, and innovation to carry it out for themselves.

Remember my Motto;  For me WM2D stands for Wood, Metal, & 2 Days... 

Ralph       

rlortie

Alex,

[meaning a heavy weight can lift a light weight,]

A heavy weight can lift a light weight???? Now Jokingly, you are going to college and finding this out with your home experiments? Please explain, as I have never experienced a situation where a heavy weight would not "over balance" a lighter one. I have emphasized over balance, as we all know it depends upon the placing of the fulcrum.

Ralph

hartiberlin

Quote from: rlortie on May 15, 2008, 12:57:15 AM
Stefan,

[A topic you are watching has been marked as a sticky topic by hartiberlin.]

Been here and lurked for the last three years, never seen this before, can you explain to a "Newbie" what a sticky topic is?

This is as bad as having someone ask me "how long has this wind been blowing?"  I tell the I do not know as I have only lived here since 1974.

Ralph

Hi Ralph,
a sticky post  is a thread that remains at the top of the forum board,
so when nobody is posting in it ,it will not go down in the index, but stay at the top.
I put it on sticky, if something is important and also new users should see it although
there were no messages added lately..

P.S: AM now back at the PC.
I have to recreate the model with WM2D more accurately by using all the same
lengths of rods.
I have to somehow do it all via copying and pasting.
Just putting in a few rods without having them all the exact same length
is getting too much wobble and nonworking levers...

@Alex,
thanks for the video.
But if your principle really worked, why do you have to push it pretty
tight with your hands ?
Shouldn?t it have almost spun from itsself ?
Yes, try to buy some tablesalt or sugar
and put this in some small plastic bags and use some Tesa tape
to fix these bags onto the rods.
Then you will probably see, that it will balance out.
I am pretty sure now already, but I will keep on trying a few hours
more.
If this will not work out, then I will try to see, how I can incorporate spings
into this design to store the energy movement of the weights.


Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

broli

@Stefan;

Could you show screenshots of what you're currently have so I can try a sketchup doodle.