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Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?

Started by RobotHead, May 19, 2008, 11:55:42 PM

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poynt99

Quote from: otto on June 20, 2008, 06:06:32 AM
In the beginning was the DC system for powering homes. Not much homes but the DC system existed and was not efficient, not good. We know why.

Then came Tesla with the AC system, showed it and we know what we have. A SHIT!!!

Why? Look at the signals 1 half periode is positiv, the other half is negative.
Tesla knew he f..d the world but it was late AND he was bought by Westinghouse who wanted only profit.

Then came SM with his system:

ONLY POSITIVE SIGNALS!!! Pulsed positive signals. Sines or square waves. And again, we are at the discussion about overunity. Please, no more about overunity.

Otto

you're living in some kind of fantasy world dude, must have been a bad batch of red pills going around...hahahahaha!

and also it's not Tesla's AC system that is shit

when you know what you're talking about, then come back and post something worthwhile
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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wattsup

@poynt99

Sorry but your crude comment to otto is the true crap.

@otto

I am not yet up to your level because I still need to work out the circuit. Is there an official diagram for the mosfet/driver. I will get my local EE company to make it for me.

I did do some tests by plugging the dual coil diagram to my Erfinder Challenge circuit connecting the +24 and the F1,F2 locations to where the working transformer primary was with only 12vdc. Shit does this thing every get hot. I mean really hot. Now I know this is not conventional. My regular microwave transformer would have produced up to 1500 volts with my system (yes no amperage). So now I know about the heat. The pulsing I used was only on the control coils with a large capacitor/diode connected to the collector, completely isolated from the control coils. Voltage went up to around 22vdc.

As for the OU aspect, just consider this.

1) Take a 100 watts bulb and connect it directly to your DC power supply. Set the power supply to 24 vdc. Look at the light. No light at all, just the filament is getting slightly lit. But no real light. We are OK on this point.

2) A step up transformer going from 24vdc to 110vdc does not exist. There is no such thing. Transformers only work with AC. Or, you require an inverter but even then, the output will be AC. try to even find a DC/DC converter for those specs and you will have a very hard time to find it.

3) For otto to be able to light a light bulb fully lit, using 24vdc, through a 15 turns x 4 plus 6 turn winding scheme HAS to make your eyes open wide and yell out, "what the f&?k is this". So this is NOT NORMAL.

4) Yes, as I was, we are tempted to treat this as purely a watts question. 24vdc at 3 amps makes 72 watts and this should be enough to light the bulb. So I took a 110vac to 70 vac transformer and plugged the bulb. Yes it does light up but never fully bright.

5) Then we will say, "Yes but there is not only 24vdc, there is as voltage added or consumed from the frequency side because the mosfet drive end is also consuming power. Here I will let otto explain exactly what it is he is feeding on F1 and F2 and the power it is consuming because I am not there yet.

But regardless of the power used in both the DC and mosfet side, MAC is right. There is a different form of power conversion happening in the device that is not your conventional transformer action, and realizing this, it does merit more then just a curious look. It actually demands more study and hopefully more people will take part in it that have much better EE brains then I do.

The basic point is you can take 24vdc even at 100 amps if you wanted. It won't light the bulb any brighter because it is 100 amps. But with some frequency it is cutting up the DC and creating an amplification or conversion if you will that stands outside the normal known phenomena. Why, because your are not only creating a reactive power that has zero amps. There has to be enough amperage to light the bulb. So imagine if this orientation was taken seriously enough to push more research, where do you think we would be in 1 year or so. lol

Does anyone have a set circuit diagram showing exactly how to connect the F1,F2 drive end? Hope fully showing the actual mosfet and drive pins and how they are connected with pin numbers.

poynt99

otto, all

just because the output of a fe device is dc doesn't mean it's better than Tesla's AC system

there used to be a theory that you could get dc by rectifying any ac source, even noise

who knows that the TPU does not just rectify output pulses (kicks) it produces to get the dc output? can you say one way or the other 100%?

output power is power whether ac or dc. if it heats a resistor by the same amount, it has the same power

otto don't generalize that ac is shit because it heats just as well as dc

if SM could have made his device output a nice AC sine wave directly, you can bet your bottom dollar that he would have

the fact that ac is one half positive and the other negative is of no concern, so what?

what's up with that wattsup?  :)
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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Grumpy

AC or DC output is only the output and etermined by the configuration.  The magic is in how you got the output - not the output itself.

Kinda like poynt99 said.

You can light a bulb with HV - so lighting a bulb is not an indication of much.  Light the bulb when both leads are an inch apart -  without AC - then you got something.
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wattsup

@poynt99

Wattever is up, does not justify you bashing on otto.

As for what he said about AC, yes he is right in the sense that working towards anything OU will not be done in AC. First of all did you ever see an AC battery. No. So how will you return your power to source. You can only do this in DC. AC is not the same as DC, DC pulse or DC reversing polarity.

I think the inference to Tesla with AC is simply that once AC came, all brains started turning off because the quest to tame the DC beast stopped. The search for controlled return to source stopped. So AC brought power to every home in the most economical manner possible, but this has cost us in not liberating the people from the power mongers. Just the way they like it.