Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?

[Grumpy]

Hello all,

@Grumpy

why not?

Otto

I am not exactly sure.  Ferromagnetic material dampens the field, or absorbs it, or diverts it in some way.  A magnetic field is a dielectric phenomenon as this is where the field manifests - not in the material, but in the space around it, which is a dielectric.

I am not saying that you can not make a device that converts useful energy, and has ferromagnetic material in it's core - because you can - but it will not be a TPU as you have to take a different approach like Gunderson's ring device which has a ferrous core and a wavy collector and magnets perpedicular to the collector.

You can work with the "electric field" or you can work with the "magnetic field", but in the end you have to manipulate the "tempic field" and this means you have to alter the rate of entropy for the space your coils are in - this means altering the field that creates "time".  All three of these fields are related and two working together can manipulate the third.

The following is an excerpt from Wilbert Smith's "The New Science":

There is basically no difference between particles and radiated energy, except one of structure and configuration. Both contain Reality and are made up of fields in space, and are subject to the higher Parameters. We can say that radiated energy is "extended" and that matter is "reentrant", to describe loosely their configurations and structures.

With the foregoing in mind we can now explore what happens when the various fields are operated upon by each other. When an electric field is operated upon by a tempic field, i.e., changed, a magnetic field results. When a magnetic field is operated upon by a tempic field, i.e., changed, an electric field results. A tempic field should result when an electric field operates on a magnetic field, but the trick is to make it do so. Also, we would like to know what happens when a tempic field is operated upon by an electric field or a magnetic field.

A tempic field is largely amorphous and has direction only in relation to its own gradient in space, while both the electric and magnetic fields have vectorial aspects in addition to their scalar aspects. Therefore, we could hardly expect complete symmetry among the operations of these three fields. We can, however, work through an intermediate arrangement whereby we generate the desired field with its interaction already built into it. Whether or not there is a limit to this sort of operation we do not know, but it certainly hasn't been found yet, and it is a valid approach so long as we keep the basic rules constantly in mind.

As an introductory exercise consider the operation of a tempic field on an electric field by the simple expedient of having the electric field move. A magnetic field will be produced and will have a certain specific orientation (this is the Rowland Effect). The vectorial direction of the magnetic field will be mutually at right angles to the direction of the electric field and its motion. Now, since the magnetic field is a curl function its divergence over the entire field must be zero. In order to bring this about the magnetic field must operate on either or both if the other fields to close the system somehow, somewhere. One such method would be for this operation to increase the tempic field on one side and decrease it on the other so that the motion would close into a loop, which implies the operation of the magnetic field on the electric field to produce a tempic field. If the structure of the three fields is understood, the validity of this operation is at once apparent, which establishes another principle; namely, that when a magnetic field, produced by a moving electric field, is moved longitudinally a tempic field is produced.

More thinking about this exercise discloses the fact that if this system merely closes on itself, the divergence, which is the electric field is eliminated, so that the only way in which the system can be self-sustaining is for it to close toroidally, so that there will be components of all three fields in all directions. That this is in fact the model of the basic particle of the universe in which we exist is amply borne out by experiment, because it displays a tempic field, an electric field, and a magnetic moment. The electric polarity depends on whether the spiral is right- or left-handed.

Inspection of this model discloses the fact that the tempic field will drop off as the inverse distance from the center of the toroid, the electric field will drop off as the inverse square of this distance, and the magnetic field will drop of as the inverse cube. What fields we observe with our instrumentation in the vicinity of such a particle will be the summation of the particle fields, the fields of all other particles, and the unresolved background fields of the fabric itself.

Possibly a clearer understanding of the structure of the basic particle may be had by considering the composition, orientation, and interaction of the entire field structure, considered together as a unit.

Looking at the composite field structure shows us three fields at right angles to each other. There is the tempic with its gradient in one direction, the electric with its divergence in a direction at right angles to it and including it, and the magnetic at right angles to the other two and including both of them. For self-sustaining conditions, the operation of each upon the other, there must be one-for-one relationships between them. Therefore the real movement under stable self-sustaining conditions will be in the vectorial 1,1,1 direction, or exactly midway among the three directions of the component fields. (this is inside the toroid)

[th3jester]

Hmmmm. this thread got a little off topic....

I've read most of everything from SM, Lindsay, Otto, GiantKiller and alot of others and still am not satisfied that something amazing is happening.

Now if someone can show me a TPU doing some real work, not lighting a LED or other bulbs but actually electrical work (and yes i do realize that lighting a light is electrical work but its pathetic, its not useful) then I will believe everything about SM and how he is not a scam artist.

I am going to forget everything I have read on this forum and all those PDF's and do my own research about a solid state generator. Anyone is welcome to join me.

Also, just to make sure, I am not bashing the above members or anyone else on this forum. I'm sure those people are not frauds and have probably learned a shit ton of stuff from SM research. I just don't like SM. There is too much discrediting information about him, and so I believe his TPU won't work.

-Th3jester

[BEP]

@Grumpy
I understand and agree with the info you posted above and agree with the faults with iron in the core. The jard part is offsetting or cancelling one field so the other two fill the unbalance.
It is clear to me the tempic is hard to grasp beause it IS our frame of existance and reference. Iron in the core negates attempts to create unexpected resonance and speed.

[Grumpy]

@Grumpy
I understand and agree with the info you posted above and agree with the faults with iron in the core. The jard part is offsetting or cancelling one field so the other two fill the unbalance.
It is clear to me the tempic is hard to grasp beause it IS our frame of existance and reference. Iron in the core negates attempts to create unexpected resonance and speed.

Hey BEP,

Glad to see you looking in the same direction.  Yes, it is hard to grasp.  I'm still trying.

[Grumpy]

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