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Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?

Started by RobotHead, May 19, 2008, 11:55:42 PM

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Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

For as long as you all keep banging coils with spikes more years will pass with NO results. The TPU works off pure sine waves to provide the initial magnetic rotation of a weak magnetic field.


This is not exactly true.
The Radiant Energy Event itself manifests only when sharp gradients are used in combination with high voltage.
This means short sharp pulses.
This is the exact reason why we don not see it in our perfect sine wave applications.

Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

How many of you have made a stacked tpu and actually made a rotating magnetic field?? I haven't seen ANY not ONE.


The Stacked TPU model is conciderd to be a prototype which did have issues.
Also i have come to the conclusion Steven wanted to talk much about the thing but he wasn't really wanting to release any info on what it really did.
If this was a matter of him not knowing what it did , not wanting to risk his income or maybe just that he didn't want to give it away i don't know.
I do now there are people who have worked on this for a long time and they have improved the design.
As for the rotating (magnetic) field , i have seen more then one.
But like i said i am not intrested in the magnetic part, i am intrested in the high voltage charge.

Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

Each tuned circuit loop is half of dipole folded and the voltage will appear between the dipoles. The interaction of the rotating ball at the right frequency will interact with the earths magnetic field as because its spinning it will have INERTIA and will resist being moved as a gyroscope!


This is an old view.
I was also thinking like that 2 years ago.
My view has totally changed and it has got nothing to do with the earths magnetic field at all.

Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

The circuit is also a cold cathode triode tube! The 3 coils around each collector are the control GRIDS the first collector is the ANODE and the bottom one is the CATHODE. Electrons will stream between the Cathode and the Anode (maybe reversed in cold electricity) of the folded dipole.


This also relates to the early models, the early models Steven was wanting to talk about alot but he was not wanting to go into detail.
See Steven just putted alot of words into a cup, stirred it up and wrote them down.
What you are reffering to as being collector coils in the early units are control coils, and what you are reffering to as being control coils are collectors.

Steven deliberatly mixed things up.
To understand this you have to go back to the verry basic principle of this effect which was described by Nicola Tesla and aswell in the work of Edwin Gray.
Here we can see that a sharp high voltage pulse is being fed into a copper mass be it a bar or a wire.
In stevens unit this is what he calls his collector.
THen there are placed grids around that wire that intercept the high energy particles.
It is the big stout wire that is being pulsed and what he called the control coil are the receptors of the high energy particles that are ejected out of the wire at the exact moment the high voltage pulse is applied to the copper mass.

I have been holding on to Stevens words for over a year and i did not get any further.
Then i took a step back and compared what he said to what the older literature was describing and imediatly it became clear to me Steven didn't really want to give it away.

To see the verry basic effect only two conditions must be met.

1. Charged High voltage Capacitor.
2. Control of the pulse duration.

When Steven was working on his spatial 3D sound project he was working with quad esl electrostatic speakers and these have operating voltages well over 5000 Volts.
He was wrapping his own iron bailing wire delay coils and when testing he noticed a signal pop up on the spectrum analyzer.
So in essence he had discoverd that the Radiant Energy Effect could be intensified by adding a delay element but from the same source, an important discovery.

These high energy particles radiate away in a straight line perpendicular to it's source.
This means if you want to intercept them you would have to place grid over grid over grid over grid and so on building bigger and bigger around the radiating object, not verry practical.
So Steven was looking for a way to "spread" the effect over the capturing wires and here is where the rotation comes in.
Some of the units used vertical rotation and others used horizontal rotation to spread the effect over the wires that were aroud the units. (the wires you are reffering to as control coils)
We know when he was testing his delay coils he was pulsing with high voltage square wave so no sine here either.

Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

When SM told you to use tubes it was also a cryptic clue as well as practical to make low noise pure sine and also said you do NOT need a heater to stream electrons of COLD electricity.  He also told you he made a 3 channel AUDIO amplifier of great purity. ANOTHER clue. He also told you the frequency was based on circumference of the collectors!


Steven was an audio guy working on a 3D audio system to patent it and make money of it.
The multi channel high quality amplifiers he made (if he did) were not intended for the development of the TPU, they were intended to drive the quad esl electrostatic speakers he was working with in his project.
Steven had the right tools at the right place to see the effect, and he did.
The frequency is based on the circumference, this is just about what happens in a quad esl speaker where the diffrent areas of the cone are driven with diffrent progressive delays to get a perfect frequency responce.

Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

He told you there are THREE control coils not 8 5 20 or 50! One for each channel of his cryptic 3 channel hifi  system.  Also he said the best designs used 3 collectors but this gets sketchy because its clear the simple TPU use two collectors one anode and one cathode but can be stacked to increase current or voltage between then like stacking batteries.  He named them collectors for good reason too because they collect the streaming electricity which will appear like magic once you have a spinning magnetic ball of high purity.


He also said he used multiple runs of wires as well and you can use as many coils as you want if they fit into it.
But i do pay much attention to what he said anymore.

Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

You should NOT be making high voltage tesla coils or pancakes or HV generators that is not a TPU and has no place in this design. High voltage energy spikes of a few uSec at 1000 watts  as in the big TPU no way you can rub your hands round it and not get whacked in face and arms stinging like hell anywhere in the room.  Also SM told you there is NO mass circuitry he is right is needs 2 oscillators and some old 80's tech VCO feedback to keep it locked. So why are you making hi tech CPU controllers for?


So here you tell us what we must not do, and then you ask the question why we are doing what we are doing, that's a bit weird  mate.
High voltage is exactly where we should focuss and 1500 Volts is a good start.
As for the mass circuitry clue, it's the perfect way to say there isn't any so we would not have to talk about the actual circuits and reactors.

Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

The extremely low power to start the TPU is due to the fact it only requires simple sine oscillators these are the PRECURSORS.  This will produce the tiny magnetic field weak at first but as it interacts with the earth magnetic  field this FEEDS energy to the system.  As magnetic energy builds the earth responds by inducing more current in the collectors to resist the action. It feels like a motor spinning with a flywheel and wont like being moved and the phase offset creates the low vibration.  Electricity is now a by product you only have to find and tap the right places.

As SM said it RUNS with self gain and only a tiny sniffer coil is required to power the control circuity and like all ZPE devices the most critical of any design is making sure the load does NOT effect the input as NON REFLECTIVE. The TPU easily achieves this as high currents passing around the collector coils are perpendicular to the control coils and the entire format is a Class C Three Phase Magnetic Resonance PUSH PUSH Triode Amplifier.

Because its two triodes one up and one down this separates the voltage between the collectors. The higher the magnetic ball power field the greater the separations and resulting higher voltage appears between the dipoles and the more stress and heat builds up in the system. The lower side will force negative and top side positive thus only DC will appear from the device. BUT its actually high frequncy DC with an AC component.


The output is mainly DC from the high energy particles being spread over the many collector wires in one direction,but with a slight ripple from pulsing the control coils.

Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

So clear your bench throw the old trash out and start making collectors with SINE waves which will spin a compass needle . 


The one thing i hate most is that some people try to tell other people what to do without them having anything to .
You risk to point the one guy going in the right direction to drop his stuff and start to move in the wrong......

Seriously you cannot do that.

Quote from: bolt on October 23, 2008, 07:48:21 PM

Im telling you this because we are running out of time before the planet is nuked.


You wanna know what i think?

You think you think you know that you think that you know that you think how this thing operates.
And because you think you think you know that you think that you know that you think how this thing operates you think you can tell other people what to do because you are so sure about this.

Think again. :)

Marco.


Antimon

Hey Guys!

Follow the words from marco! You will be in the right direction :)

A.

innovation_station

build what i have been saying and your done!!

come on guys .....


disriptuive discharges...  tesla  be it sine or square ...

the things i have created and designed work just fine and are safe

i do agree with rosphere    ..... i like a work horse too!!!  hell i m ramping things up so i just walk past the thing once a day and i push a button ;D ;D

now im good for power for the entire day lol lol lol !!!!


no shit!!!!

ist

the goal will be to recharge a sealed forklift battery....   put a big invertor on it  and off grid your house / factory....   ;) ;)

this tech exisits NOW!!! 

dont waste your time you will be left in dust...

oh got my coil wound 30 layers fit at 32 turns per layer all north go to 1 end and souths to the other ...  around 1000 turns in total

should prove good results  i have not tested it yet

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Mannix

I believe that bolt makes some great points and has an excellent vision .

There are and always have been 2 schools of thought on this and there is no reason why they are not both true at the same time.

Stevens position was not to make sure that we could make a tpu. But I requested info that would satisfy at least some of my insatiabe curiosity of how his devices operated . For that I am grateful.
It is my opinion that if we keep at it we will succeed ...not this or that ......but yes and..  then we may ask the infernal why.

Every sine experiment that I have done resulted in very narrow spikes that come and go in waves . due to the sync unable to be held stable as it takes its own shape. many have seen these effects  we have just been challenged to kepp the swirl accelerating.

many spike experiments have resulted in sine buildup

If somebody has a way of generating coherent and synched 3 phase(analogue) with no moving parts of a high frequency that would be a fantastic help to all here as it could be incorporated into the build itself

Lindsay



Spider

Well well, so even more people are lurking in the background....

I am a bit lost for words at the moment.

What will it take?



Spider.
When a magnetic field, produced by a moving electric field, is moved longitudinally a tempic field is produced.