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Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery

Started by 0ne, May 25, 2008, 09:14:52 PM

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Koen1

Quote from: Magnethos on July 09, 2008, 07:44:13 PM
Here you can see another free energy technique. They guy is getting 3,75 volts from the air
Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_EotqAn1M

I dont see the 3,75 volts, I see him just barely reaching 300 milliVolts...
And I see him using a fairly long antenna wire...
Surely everybody knows we can use a long wire antenna or metal plate
antennas to "collect" charge? The higher you hang them, the better...
But I never see the guy mention amperage even once, so for all his talk
about collecting free volts, it could be he gets a voltage on his capacitor
but that he's still getting near zero actual power...
Not very impressive at all, imho.

oh and @Magnethos, I happened to come across you peltier element idea
on youtube as well, and I just have to ask: You do understand why that won't work,
don't you? If not I will explain, but I can't imagine you haven't realised it yet...

Quote from: JimbootHey Tinu - do you actually mean foil on the inside of the pack? I'm in AU just want to make sure we are talking about the same thing here.
I don't think he's talking about the silver paper inside the pack, I think he means the transparent plastic wrapper the packs come in (in most countries).
I'm not sure but I think it's cellophane or something very close to it. It has the typical 'static' cling of cellophane... In general most things that tend to
build up static are bad conductors and many of them are good isolators. Except cats. ;)

Magnethos

@Koen1
Thanks for the info, I think that the energy is 3.75 Volts because the guy wrote that in the comments of the video. I can?t see clearly the multimeter in the video.

About the idea of the peltier module, I think that is a waste of time. I made that video because I thought that it would be usefull for somebody with a better electronics knowledge. But I have seen that my invention is a waste of time... This is cience... some ideas will be awesome, and other will be a waste of time. The key is try and test and see what happens.

Jimboot

Thanks Froot,
I guess that is my approach as well.

Some of the greatest discoveries have come from the most unlikely of places. I/m prepared to accept any other theory that makes sense which is why I have been testing the Gal bat levels as well as try various bits of plastic to make sure the effect of getting voltage through insulation material is not isolated to a single item.

I have used brand new clean clips as well as thin pieces of plastic wrapper. I'd love to see if anyone can replicate the effect, I am now thinking of simplifying the array and measuring again.

I think my fields need 'tuning'. If a magnetic field is somehow causing a voltage and not the chemical reaction, I'd think it would work best with the fields aligned in some sort of optimal pattern. With so many washers and bits of paper (which seem to effect overall polarity depending on where they are connected) involved it is difficult to visualize what is going on.

Which brings me to my next question. Is there any PC/Mac peripheral which will act as a multimeter and record readings etc? Or PC Oscilloscope or something?

THanks

tinu

Quote from: Jimboot on July 10, 2008, 06:56:08 AM
Hey Tinu - do you actually mean foil on the inside of the pack? I'm in AU just want to make sure we are talking about the same thing here.
No, not the inside one (which is Al on paper) but the outside one.

Koen1

Quote from: Magnethos@Koen1
Thanks for the info, I think that the energy is 3.75 Volts because the guy wrote that in the comments of the video. I can?t see clearly the multimeter in the video.

About the idea of the peltier module, I think that is a waste of time. I made that video because I thought that it would be usefull for somebody with a better electronics knowledge. But I have seen that my invention is a waste of time... This is cience... some ideas will be awesome, and other will be a waste of time. The key is try and test and see what happens.
That's right. And it is not a bad thing to come up with different ideas for
OU devices and think about them, not at all.
I think everyone who's into alternative energy solutions has thought about
using a setup that uses and recycles thermal differences. And everyone
comes to the same conclusion: energy is lost in the process.
I hadn't realised you had already come to the same conclusion.

BOT; it should be easy to determine if the dielectric you're planning to
use is a good isolator, one should merely need to put it between two of those
washers and connect a simple 9V battery (or another type) to the washers
and to your multimeter. If it is a proper isolator your meter should read zero millivolts
give or take ten from ambient charges. If it is not a true isolator but rather just
a bad conductor, you should be able to read some higher value.
If you still don't believe wet paper can act as a weak electrolyte then you might want
to try that too to see the difference. But I would advise to read up on the history of
galvanic cells (as you'd see that wet paper has been used ever since galvanic batteries
were invented).

In any case, the voltages you're getting do sound a bit high for a mere galvanic process
so that does suggest tere is something else going on...
But it could of course be something along the lines of the carbon rod "Protelf" generator
thread, which in turn also seems to be related to Luc's thread on the weird effect of
sparks being able to jump a much larger air gap than they should be able to given their
voltage, as long as the feed pulse is fed through the right pole of a conductive magnet (a neo).
All these things appear to be related somehow, as they all use a strong conductive neo
magnet, and the energy pulse is in alignment with the magnetic field orientation.
In this battery there is zero pulsing going on, yet it seems somehow a slight charge flow is
induced purely by the difference in magnetic permeability inside a strong B-field.
In the carbon rod setup a pulse of DC is fed through a carbon rod inside and parallel to a
magnetic field, and in certain setups this appears to produce a stronger pulse on the output
side than was fed to the input side, which was claimed to be able to produce 5 times the input...
And in the spark gap thing a DC pulse is produced by momentarily connecting the DC feed wire
(cathode) to the anode wire which has a neodymium magnet attached in such a way that the DC
flows into the south pole of the magnet, and that wire leads to a car spark plug which now
all of a sudden produces sparks that are like twice the size of the original ones.
In every setup we have alignment of DC with the magnetic field lines.

Now I'm not opposed to serious discussion of this apparent effect as long as we can keep Leedskalnin
out of it please. ;)