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what keeps someone from using natural gas carburetor?

Started by 22350, June 01, 2008, 03:56:18 PM

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resonanceman

Quote from: 22350 on June 01, 2008, 08:05:11 PM
great link, but still no discussion of using natural gas carburettors.



Not exactly    .........reply  18 says  something about a natural gas carburettors require around  5 psi
this  implies that  you would have to  run  your electoliser at  that pressure .   
Storing  HHO is not practical  because it is  just water and  quickly  turns  back  into water  if not  used right away  .

A  small short  term  storage tank  might  be possible .........but you would still have to  match  the  output of the cell  with the needs of the engine  very closely .

I would  think that  the things to focus on right now are   making a cell  that is big enough  ..........and  able to be controled over a wide range of outputs  ..........     

Personally  I like the   direct  water injection / plasma ignition  idea  better .   


gary



22350

Quote from: resonanceman on June 02, 2008, 12:35:15 AM

Not exactly    .........reply  18 says  something about a natural gas carburettors require around  5 psi
this  implies that  you would have to  run  your electoliser at  that pressure .   
Storing  HHO is not practical  because it is  just water and  quickly  turns  back  into water  if not  used right away  .

A  small short  term  storage tank  might  be possible .........but you would still have to  match  the  output of the cell  with the needs of the engine  very closely .

I would  think that  the things to focus on right now are   making a cell  that is big enough  ..........and  able to be controled over a wide range of outputs  ..........     

Personally  I like the   direct  water injection / plasma ignition  idea  better .   


gary




Funny you should mention that.  I was just looking at that from SirHoax on youtube. 

I think that it might be the key, but not by itself.  What if you used a combination of the two ideas?  Do the plasma detonation and also use stan meyers gas generating cell.

That combo would account for the fact that no one has been able to figure out how to get his cell working independently.

I don't know.  Seems funny, but he spent a lot of time on those cells, but in the video he is holding something that looks like a plasma detonator.

Why both??  They say to mislead, but maybe not

Gary, where are you from?

resonanceman

Quote from: 22350 on June 02, 2008, 12:44:09 AM
Funny you should mention that.  I was just looking at that from SirHoax on youtube. 

I think that it might be the key, but not by itself.  What if you used a combination of the two ideas?  Do the plasma detonation and also use stan meyers gas generating cell.

That combo would account for the fact that no one has been able to figure out how to get his cell working independently.

I don't know.  Seems funny, but he spent a lot of time on those cells, but in the video he is holding something that looks like a plasma detonator.

Why both??  They say to mislead, but maybe not

Gary, where are you from?

22350

I am  from  SE pennsylvania

2 hrs north of DC


Have you read the   " My s1r9a9m9 replication!  "    thread?

The  original  car is  close to what I would be  shooting for .

The  idea of running the  exhaust into the   fuel tank is  brilliant ..........most of the  exhaust would   condense

As I understand  this car ......it  doesn't actually  burn the water .......the  plasma  just flashes  it into steam .  .........if  the power  was  there  just  using  water and plasma   that is what I  would  stick with .      If    it  didn't have enough power  adding  HHO  would  be the next step ...... enough HHO and  you  can almost  gaurentee   that any water  that is injected  will get flashed into steam   


gary

22350

Quote from: resonanceman on June 02, 2008, 01:44:42 PM
22350

I am  from  SE pennsylvania

2 hrs north of DC


Have you read the   " My s1r9a9m9 replication!  "    thread?

The  original  car is  close to what I would be  shooting for .

The  idea of running the  exhaust into the   fuel tank is  brilliant ..........most of the  exhaust would   condense

As I understand  this car ......it  doesn't actually  burn the water .......the  plasma  just flashes  it into steam .  .........if  the power  was  there  just  using  water and plasma   that is what I  would  stick with .      If    it  didn't have enough power  adding  HHO  would  be the next step ...... enough HHO and  you  can almost  gaurentee   that any water  that is injected  will get flashed into steam   


gary

Looked at it, very interesting.  Seems like his test engine might be a bit of a hindrance.

Was looking at the Stanley Meyer video again and it really looks like he was depending solely on those injector / igniter.  I wonder if he also used the hho generator to facilitate expansion?

Has anyone just used a natural gas carburetor?  I have asked this a few times and never really got an answer.  Seems like the obvious solution, at which point it would just be an issue of hho generation at levels necessary.

p