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Magnetic Permeability ... I can't find anyone talking about this !!!!!

Started by The Observer, June 02, 2008, 02:38:15 AM

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spikey

Carry on Observer,

I just *LOVE* original thinkers!

Carry on, keep going...you may be on to something.

People with a mindset similar to yours, are world changers, the negativists or status quo supporters, are shallow, world stagnators.

Keep up the 'outta the box' thought patterns matey, if ultimately nothing of value (energy wise) comes from it, what have you/we lost? Absolutely nothing!

At the very least, the VERY least, we would all have had our neurons positively occillated, and perhaps as a free bonus, a few more synapses would have developed, making us all that little more clever!

So, it's a win-win situation as far as i can see.

Keep on keeping on man.

spikey.

nul-points

heheh - welcome to the 'get-yer-hands-dirty' brigade, Obs! 

taking your experiments on vacation - that's just way too much devotion to 'the dream'  ;)

but who knows... maybe all that solitude & beauty will prove to be an inspiration & opportunity to focus?

looking forward to your name starting to bear fruit!

all the best
sandy

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"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
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Sparky345

 :D
congratulations. You just "invented' an automotive  spark plug coil,  just like the ones henry ford used on his first model t gas/spark engine.

The Observer

Greetings,

It has been ~ 1 and 1/2 years since this Topic has been addressed.

A little history... I became very interested in how magnets work after tinkering with magnet motors.

                                                      Why is this important?
                    Because Ferromagnetic Materials (FMs) can amplify a magnetic field.
                                                                      and
             Understanding how Magnets/FMs work is imperative to utilizing them properly.
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So last I looked... a year and a half ago... this topic had been read about 1000 times.

                           Now it is at 4800 !!! a difference of almost 4000.

How the hell did it get read that many times
                                                                          buried in the forum
                                                                                                           without a single comment for that long??
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Ok, so the time is right  to bring this up again &
                                                                         keep it at the forefront of the consciousness here at OU.com

Briefly,
              1. A coil produces a magnetic field.
              2. An iron core coil produces a magnetic field 5000 times stronger. (same current)
              3. A piece of iron turns into a powerful magnet in the presence of a small magnetic field.

The big deal is the number 5000.

The coil's magnetic field is assisted (or amplified) by the iron by a ratio of 5000 to 1.

Therefore the Magnetic Permeability of Iron is 5000.

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I came across a good video of a guy testing the difference between an air core and an iron core.

                                     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tIaT_EZbMk
   
Please check this out... to see the magnetic field (of the coil) amplified (by the iron) without any extra current.

Best Regards,
                       The Observer

Sudonym

This is not discussed because there is no free lunch here. What you are observing is inductance. When you place an iron core in a coil, you increase the physical space contained within the coil, therefore its ability to store energy. It is like comparing a 8oz cup to a 55 gallon drum. Both can be filled with water, but one will hold much more. Look at the equations for induction, Faradays law, learn how each turn of a coil induces on its neighbor to create an internal BEMF causing a storage of energy. Look at the inductive rise time of an air core and an iron core, these should spell out the difference.