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42 watts?

Started by gazzzwp, June 12, 2008, 12:16:31 PM

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I have just spend quite  bit of my hard earned on electronic components on ebay with the intention of building the Dave Lawton PWM circuit complete with s/s tubes operating as a resonant circuit.

I was reading Ravzz previous posts were he has replicted the Meyer design (at least the 'bench' demonstration), however in one of his calculations he was suggesting a power input of about 6W and an output of about 42W

Whilst this seems to achieve over unity, 42W still seems somewhat trifling and unsuitable for any ICE or other practical appication.  How are people achieving more output than this - with conventional hydrolysis and lots of amps?

I cannot believe that people are getting mpg benefits using 42W of hydrogen power - it just does not make sense!

If I make any progress or breakthroughs I promise to post all details here and share my work.

Any comments please?

Gazza

Jokker

Yeah.. i like your idea.
That u can generate certain amount of hydrogen by using pretty low power.

I cant still get that how car with 100 KW engine cant be powered by using electrolysis.
It is 100000 Watts It is 100A * 100V
Yea there is loss to generate electrical power.

For example if ull get a 10 KW electrical generator run fully by ur engine then u can power more that 1 cell... maybe 10.

There is this video on youtube:  600L per h and hes powering it by 1 KW

Simple calculation shows that 600L (it contain oxygen also) So its about 400L of H2 It makes at 1atm (normal pressure)
If found on net that liquid hydrogen is about 778x dense as hydrogen at 1 atm.

So it makes about 0,5 L Of liquid hydrogen.

Now it getting more complicated.
There is no way to compare fuels. But lets say hydrogen burns like gasoline...
So u will need about 10 times more of it ???

Im pretty sure that im very wrong about something but i guess something makes sense  ::)
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hey Joker,there is a way to compare fuels,it is how much of energy they store.U can compare per mass or per volume. So by this factor u can say how much hydrogen (liters,kg..) u need to obtain the same power as burning gasoline.Look around in this section of forum to find ur answers.

gazzzwp can't u just scale up if the design is really OU?
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Creativity

Scaling up the design is not really practical with the Dave Lawton PWM circuit since the whole principle is based on low current circuitry involving Integrated circuits (555 timers) and a MOSFET (transistor).

The output could be increased up to a point I suppose and it would depend if the gain in output was linear in relation to the input current.

Gazza

Jokker

Yes i know that,
This mass and volume and molecules inside ... makes enthalpy. It is mathematical  unit.

But they way these fuels burn inside engine is very different.

They say that hydrogen is perfect energy storage, thats way there are hybrid cars.
Also hydrogen is used in rockets as fuel so it got to be effective.
Also burn value is 4.1 % to 75% and it got to o something with air and burning...

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And about overunity u calculated...
How u measured output? Just L per h ?

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