riddle me this HHO man...

[innovation_station]

can i ask what is wrong with a boiling pot of water

as i have have seen and read the hotter the better   no??

have a look at cold fusion

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oLUeGX3hNpU

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[hunter]

I have a 9 plate unit, the plates are + - + - + - + -+ It started with 5 amps than after one and a half hour ended up almost 30amps so the ABS pipe canister was about to melt because of the heat, I just used a little sodium hydroxide. Than I did install it in the cabin of my car, and also installed a 30amps pwm dc motor controller, so now I keep the amps under 10 and don?t heat up either. Now I?m going to install the 15 plates unit next to this one I made, and keep both under 10 amps

[sigmaX]

Hi peeps

I just build an HHO generator for my car. I am waiting to buy an amperimeter clamp, so I can be sure of current consumption.

Maybe someone of you can clarify some concepts to me:

There seems to be two "schools" about voltage and current (or maybe I got everything wrong).

1) Not more than 2 volts are usable for hydrolisis. BUT HIGH CURRENT is a must (being the most used configuration the ones that use +||||||- -||||||+).
2) (the one that uses pulsed current) is: LOW current but high voltage (like Meyer's tubes o ravzz pulsed current modulator).

My cell actually is composed of 16 ss plates (15cm x 5cm)  separated by 1mm aprox, in +-+-+-+-+-+-+- configuration. My tester was not a clamp one, and reached up to 10 amps. It gave an error. I took it off, and using my CB radio 12amps power supply, I also burned its fuse. Now I am wondering how many amps my "monster configuration" is eating ...

For the three or so seconds that it worked before burning out the fuse, the HHO production was VERY GOOD.

I used tap water, with no electrolytes added.

Now I am also planning to try distilled water, just to see if I can lower amperage.

If things keep being this out of scale, I will switch into pulsed high voltage, low current feed (with a power inverter, just to see what happens). Then I might try to build the ravzzz pulsed circuit, if things look promising (or keep the power inverter attached to the system).

Anyway; I am also building several measurement and safety sensors to be rigged into the HHO generator, inside my car:

A pressure sensor (that will monitor HHO build up and water level, inside the cell), a temp sensor (just to monitor if things get boiling), a voltage sensor, probably a current sensor (this one is not decided) and the whole contraption is controlled with a 70A automotive relay so my microcontroller can turn it on / off at any time. Just for the sake of it, I will throw in a transmitter, so I can monitor every parameter from the inside of the car without cabling anything.

I am waiting for some parts to arrive. The transmitting and receiving platform is already built.

So, if any of you got any idea or recommendation, I?ll be truly thankful...

Regards,

Enrique

[sigmaX]

Hi peeps

I just build an HHO generator for my car. I am waiting to buy an amperimeter clamp, so I can be sure of current consumption.

Maybe someone of you can clarify some concepts to me:

There seems to be two "schools" about voltage and current (or maybe I got everything wrong).

1) Not more than 2 volts are usable for hydrolisis. BUT HIGH CURRENT is a must (being the most used configuration the ones that use +||||||- -||||||+).
2) (the one that uses pulsed current) is: LOW current but high voltage (like Meyer's tubes o ravzz pulsed current modulator).

My cell actually is composed of 16 ss plates (15cm x 5cm)  separated by 1mm aprox, in +-+-+-+-+-+-+- configuration. My tester was not a clamp one, and reached up to 10 amps. It gave an error. I took it off, and using my CB radio 12amps power supply, I also burned its fuse. Now I am wondering how many amps my "monster configuration" is eating ...

For the three or so seconds that it worked before burning out the fuse, the HHO production was VERY GOOD.

I used tap water, with no electrolytes added.

Now I am also planning to try distilled water, just to see if I can lower amperage.

If things keep being this out of scale, I will switch into pulsed high voltage, low current feed (with a power inverter, just to see what happens). Then I might try to build the ravzzz pulsed circuit, if things look promising (or keep the power inverter attached to the system).

Anyway; I am also building several measurement and safety sensors to be rigged into the HHO generator, inside my car:

A pressure sensor (that will monitor HHO build up and water level, inside the cell), a temp sensor (just to monitor if things get boiling), a voltage sensor, probably a current sensor (this one is not decided) and the whole contraption is controlled with a 70A automotive relay so my microcontroller can turn it on / off at any time. Just for the sake of it, I will throw in a transmitter, so I can monitor every parameter from the inside of the car without cabling anything.

I am waiting for some parts to arrive. The transmitting and receiving platform is already built.

So, if any of you got any idea or recommendation, I?ll be truly thankful...

Regards,

Enrique

[innovation_station]

finally i have been impressed by the nutrel plate cell 

i took 1 of the plates out of the 4 plate cell and loaded the soda to it it is statring to get damm hot and amparage has not exceeded 10 amps yet been 40 min since i fired it up

production it great  not as much as my other cell +-+-+- but it cosumes hot 1/3 of the of the start up of my high amp cell cold lol

if that makes sence

  i am watching the amps closely the time and the temp this is a dirrect connect to a battery

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