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Overunity Machines Forum



riddle me this HHO man...

Started by Nution, June 16, 2008, 07:12:59 AM

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Mr.Entropy

Quote from: Nution on June 16, 2008, 07:12:59 AM
What is the purpose of a neutral plate?
4 "neutral" plates (they're not actually neutral) turn a 12V cell into 5 2.4V cells wired in series.  Water electrolysis only takes a couple volts, and production in each cell is proportional to current.  Power spent is current*voltage, though, so putting more volts than you need across a single cell wastes power.

innovation_station

just tested the 6 plate 4 nutreal plates  in just tap water resualts were crap  slow production  mind you amps were verry low none the less i much perfer the heat and high amps... this was connected to the 12v deep cycle battery dirrectly as are my other cells

i will stick with the high amps as the cost to make a lower amprage high volume cell it way too much in ss alone plus the container will take too much time to build and seal

i have ran my unit for 1.5 hours nonstop  testing it out and no concerns heat or other wise it gets damm hot yes but the abs 4" sch 40 seams to take it well  this is a dirrect connect to the battery fully charged im useing 4ga car audio power supply wire after 1 hour run production is large

ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Nution

Do you know what type of amps your getting towards the end of that 1 1/2 hrs? Also the temp of the water? I wonder if eventually it will cap off and stop getting hotter and hotter and just reach a ceiling in temp and amps.. Have you seen that at all? Thanks for the info btw. :)

innovation_station

in what i have seen so far it did not climb much more in temp i did not mesure the amps but b4 i start amps were well over 30 amp draw and that was cold tap water  no electrolite  ;D  but even after 1.5 hours my wires were not hot or melting i have no connections in the can only out put for gas i have wercked a few cans doing it the wrong way in the past

ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Nution

I am mainly concerned because I am planning a build of my own design that uses a lot of SS electrodes and cathodes. I am worried that the heat might melt the whole thing to the ground lol.

I have some measures in place to improve cooling, I just do not know how effective it will be and I want to make sure I do not pass any thresh hold that is to dangerous as far as amps and heat goes.

I have all the parts and am ready to build it, just want to make sure I put it together right and not just end up making a boiling pot of water.