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Overunity Machines Forum



New Magnetic Motor Theory Paper

Started by Jdo300, September 20, 2005, 09:03:47 AM

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TechStuf

Jason, great observations!   However, such observations by other researchers are being and have been made for some time regarding the force coupling of magnetic fields at or near perpendicularity.  Several patents make mention of such as well as the statements of various researchers.  It is new to you, and that's great!  Perhaps you will close the loop or assist in the success of a proof of concept model!  Have you experimented much yet with a variety of PM geometries and passive switching setups? 


At any rate,  good luck in that which you choose to pursue!


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sypherios

There has got to be a wy to use the attracting force fo a mgnet. An electromagnet fliped on above the wheel large enough will for sure spin the wheel. The proper switching and sheilding must be enabled.


     Sypherios

HardNor

Quote from: sypherios on September 22, 2005, 11:51:11 PM
There has got to be a wy to use the attracting force fo a mgnet. An electromagnet fliped on above the wheel large enough will for sure spin the wheel. The proper switching and sheilding must be enabled.


? ?  Sypherios

sorry but i dont think so - thats the reason why no overunity will work which try to use earth gravitation - because you cant shield too, i allways saw the magnetic power of magnets as a "local gravitation" with the advantage to orientate and shield (repelling force) this gravitations. - so would be great to shield the attraction in some way - but i dont think its possible without loosing the earned enery for this again

regards Benny

sypherios

I made a drawing that explains what would work. The wheel is similar to minatos. The black boxes are electromags. The blue are switches with sersors that are tripped from the small blue circles. the red circles are the counter weights. The black lines are ndfeb mags. The brown the batteries. The electromags when tripped will basically fire three times to pull the wheel assisting with the gravity on the weights. I dunno how fast an electro mag can be switched on and off. any info greatly appreciated.


  sincerly sypherios


P.S. Tis was a spur of the moment drawing any question will be answered.

Jdo300

Quote from: HardNor on September 22, 2005, 09:56:42 PM
one thing: y?u cant use attraction for a working motor - never - why?, easy to explain, you must have the same force to leave the attraction field as you get from the attraction movement itself, but in real physics its because of friction impossible to get the same force again. thats why your shematic motor on the first image never can work - its like lifting yourself out of the swimming pool only by touching your body.
Dont get me wrong - it may took some time to write and research the things for the article, but no new things in there - all the concepts are non working - even not the minato wheel like it is on the images. (never somebody wondered why they never showed new shematic views after it worked ;)
Its only possible to build a magnetic motor with the repulsion effect - because you can shield it, you cant shield attraction!
So for everyone who will further think about concepts - if there is ANY attraction (magnets or iron - doesnt matter) the machine wont work. Or if the attraction is unmeant and not part of the basic concept - the machine will work inefficient.
Thats the hard task if shielding - because you have to handle and very fine tune the attraction to cancel the repulsion where you have to cancel it.
Iam working on a kind of minato wheel, but with shielding. It can take some time to get a rotor, but the linear tests i did seemed like the thing can work.

Benny

Hi Benny,

I very much see your concerns about the attracting fields, and if one is looking at only the north and south poles as the means of propelling the motor, then I definitely agree with you. But the point of my article was to show that it's not the attracting and repelling fields that will get the job done. It's the interaction of the two fields that releases the force that propels the motor. The reason I believe that it is necessary to use both attraction and repulsion is solely for the purpose of balancing the forces. Once the magnetic fields are balanced out, then all that will be left to propel the motor is the quantum 'kick' force that I discussed. However, in my opinion, if one simply looks at the situation from an attraction and repulsion standpoint, then I agree with you.

God Bless,
Jason O