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This video pretty much says it all.

Started by KilltheMessenger, June 24, 2008, 01:13:55 PM

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sigmaX

THis is quite easily proved or discarded:

I got my HHO CELL ready to install in my car. I will call the autotest lab for the gas emisions test price. If it is not "THAT" expensive, I will try to do it FIRST, before installing the cell.

THen I will install it, use the car for a week, test the gain or loose in gas efficiency and also go and try another gas emisions test.

If it is too expensive, I Will give out my paypal if anyone wants to support me :) I will take pictures of the whole process... actually ... here you have my HHO CELL:


innovation_station

nice cell ...

may i make a few suggestions ...

ok get rid of any metal connectors in the can!!! the clear vynal tubbing is crap use reienforcied at the min .. also  unless that is sch40 pvc or abs  you may have a problem with that too

just some insight form my own mistakes  ;) ;)

looks great othe wise

ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

KilltheMessenger

What kind of volume are you getting out of that cell? Also, what is the draw at 14volts?

sigmaX

Hi Innovation_station and Killthemessenger:

Innovation_station: Thanks for your comments. You are right. Anyway I think I can get away with it: Let me explain:

This is a prototype. It is not intended to be used more than 7-10 days, just to validate the second part of the experiment: The electronics.

The main container and the bubbler  is cut from PVC water drain 100mm and 40mm piping, and the pvc wall is quite resistant (5 or so mm of pvc worth). I had the choice of thinner PVC, but I kept the "strong pipe".

The cell will be located outside the motor compartment itself: My car has the motor compartment, then the radiator, then the nose of the car,  which goes a bit longer, for (dubious) aesthetic / air drag motives, and there is lots of space between the place where the radiator is, and the car's nose, which is hooded, cold, and away of any mechanical parts. Even 20 cm or more from the radiator.

I am planning to put it in there. Then the bubbler will go in the motor compartment, but well apart from any heat source. the AIR intake is almost in there, right at hand from the place I am putting the cell, and the bubbler might even be right below air intake.

Also, down here we are in winter time (and there is no freezing temperature).

The valve you see, it is a "one way valve" that actually is of little use, because water is slowly passing backwards thru it (it only resists if certain pressure is going backwards, but not only the water weight itself). I will eliminate it.

I wonder: what happens if I place the HHO output right into the air intake hole (and do not try to puncture, connect it nearer the motor ?) The HHO will surely travel all the way up to the motor! ? or it will be converted to H20 Again, for example, when hitting the air filter ?) any idea ?

Regards,

SigmaX

EDIT: I have yet to measure liters, but I think it will be on the 1 / 2 liters per minute. Anyway After I measure it, I will reconfigure my stainless steel plates. Right now there are 16 of them, measuring each one 15cm x 5cm, in a +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- configuration (with about 1 mm of separation among them). But I take this way of placing them is way to dangerous (any of them touching each other, will produce a short circuit / spark !!!)

SO I did this just to see how much HHO I generate, I will test it (lots of bubbles at 10 amps / 11 volts) and then I will switch to the more safe + n n n n n n - cell type.

Killthemessegner: Amps go in direct proportion to how much electrolyte I place. With distilled water, it uses up like 1   or 2 amps, but almost no HHO production. If I place TAP WATER, it goes into 8 or 10 amps. If I place distilled water with a teaspon full of baking soda, it just eat too much (more than 15 amps) and my C.B. transformer shuts itself down.

I ordered a PWM circuit, from Hydrogen garage (shame on me, didn?t build it myself! ) just to try to pulse things a bit in different frecuencies and see how does it go.

I DONT LIKE to use 30 amps ... even 10 amps gets me the chills. I would LOVE to see 1 or more HHO litres with 10 or less amps.

newbie123

KilltheMessenger,   

See this:

http://www.hydrorunner.com/data/atds.pdf

Looks like 3rd party test data for the efficiency of a hydrogen booster in a diesel.  Do you think these guys are full of it?  Why don't you call them instead of coming here, and talking about something that you really have no idea about....   

Or would you complain about a dirt powered car as well?


Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.