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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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allcanadian

@grawpSVK
QuoteHave somebody already measured the pressure of explosion and implosion through the time.
Are you sure there is an implosion? I saw a video were the person placed a piece of paper in front of a tube containing the plasma discharge and the paper moved forward then backward and it was proposed that there was an "implosion". However what was not considered is that the column of air displaced outward from the tube has mass thus inertia, in some cases the pressurized air will move forward then continue on in excess of its pressure due to inertia producing a vacuum behind it then reverse its direction due to this vacuum. This is the primary process involved in pulse-jet engines and most all impulsive flows in general, so I think this fact should be considered before we state the media has in fact "imploded".
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gotoluc

Quote from: allcanadian on August 05, 2008, 10:43:57 AM
@grawpSVK
Are you sure there is an implosion? I saw a video were the person placed a piece of paper in front of a tube containing the plasma discharge and the paper moved forward then backward and it was proposed that there was an "implosion". However what was not considered is that the column of air displaced outward from the tube has mass thus inertia, in some cases the pressurized air will move forward then continue on in excess of its pressure due to inertia producing a vacuum behind it then reverse its direction due to this vacuum. This is the primary process involved in pulse-jet engines and most all impulsive flows in general, so I think this fact should be considered before we state the media has in fact "imploded".

Hi allcanadian, you have a good point and it should be considered. The video of the paper moving back and forth is from user qiman who is Aaron at the Energetic Forum.

I will bring your suggestion to his attention.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Luc

McGiver30

Hey Luc, can you post smw1998a's  schematic from energetic forum? I joined the site couple weeks back and I don't have access to download it yet..

Dread

@ Allcanadian.

An Axiom of Chemistry holds that Bond-breaking requires energy and bond-making releases energy.

Vapourization of water.
Water is a polar molecule. Even though is is electrically neutral the electrons are orientated to one side giving it a slightly negative end and a slightly positive end. This causes a bond between the molecules. Cohesion, surface tension and capillary action are all indicative of this bond.
This also accounts for the high boiling point of water. A lot of energy is required to separate this bond and so induce a state change to the vapour phase, from solid to gas. .
When the bond between 2 water molecules is broken some of the heat energy required for the separation is taken away.
This phenomena is experienced with the cooling sensation whilst sweating. Evapouration is the transfer of heat energy to break the bond. The greater the difference of temperature the greater the rate of evapouration.
Liquids have a lower potential energy than gases because the molecules in liquid attract each other. When a molecule of liquid changes state to a gas it gains potential energy from the kinetic energy of other molecules around it. 

Working hypothesis "Cold spark event" from non electrolytic water.

1. the plasma field aligns the electrons
2. the spark imparts electrons to the H20 creates localized heat and separates the molecular bond
3. the water vapourizes and the surrounding heat is absorbed as energy.
4. the vapour reforms
5. sonic shock wave


The chain of events would be (in rapid succession) :-
Explosion event from molecular bond separation, implosion from molecular bond reformation, reformation shock wave.

My pseudo science explanation. Seems watertight to me  :D

Rgds.
D.


allcanadian

@Dread
I would agree--but from a different perspective ;)
QuoteWater is a polar molecule. Even though is is electrically neutral the electrons are orientated to one side giving it a slightly negative end and a slightly positive end. This causes a bond between the molecules. Cohesion, surface tension and capillary action are all indicative of this bond.
The polarization due to incoherent field states produces strong interference fields bewteen the two.

QuoteThis also accounts for the high boiling point of water. A lot of energy is required to separate this bond and so induce a state change to the vapour phase, from solid to gas. .
When the bond between 2 water molecules is broken some of the heat energy required for the separation is taken away.
Heat is not "something" it is a condition of something, Heat--- a radiation falling within wavelengths at or near what we call infrared wavelengths is energy as oscillations in the media. If these wavelengths should reach an amplitude in which strong interference fields can be overcome the polarization no longer exists. When the size of the fields is reduced so is the inertia thus the rate of oscillation can increase and energy can be absorbed through an increase in velocity due to change in acceleration.

QuoteThe greater the difference of temperature the greater the rate of evapouration.
Liquids have a lower potential energy than gases because the molecules in liquid attract each other. When a molecule of liquid changes state to a gas it gains potential energy from the kinetic energy of other molecules around it.
The greater the difference in amplitude of oscillations between two fields the greater the transfer of energy between the two. Kinetic energy is a function of velocity, reduced inertia through decreasing field interactions (not mass) can produce increased rates of change thus energy stored as kinetic energy. Many people understand that Heat is not the only quality of radiation present in any given space there are many spectrums of radiation which could prove useful.


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